been gathered on these groups. the extent of the threat and the organizational ties, et cetera. are we safer today from this kind of violence or less safer? >> i think we are safer. 2021 with is exception of the capitol riot, we didn't see what we would normally see in a year of these big explosive acts of violence. we have seen over and over again the fbi and the doj foiling some of these plots before they started. now, democracy and the threat that extremism and its ideology poses to it are still very much in play here. as far as public safety goes, these increased efforts from the biden administration and resultingly the doj and et cetera have had some major successes, i think. >> you have said that january 6th was in effect a pr nightmare