>> and he goes down, sort of next to you, right? >> yes. we both go tumbling. >> sure you both go down. you never told us that you had a knife there, did you? >> no, i wasn't asked. >> oh, i see. so what you're saying is now he has the knife with him, right? now that's what you're saying, he's got the knife. >> i didn't say that either. >> well, which one is it, ma'am? does he have the knife or he doesn't have the knife? you were there? >> argumentative. >> sustained. >> in order to catch her, he used details. you know, it's been said often that the devil is in the details. what i would say, that in this case, the devil's there all right, but he's in the timecodes, the timestamps, because the prosecution playing off the jury questions, had her go through her scenario of how the death went down all in just 62 seconds. >> in this case, what we have to