that and there are people who write big checks in the republican party that want that but the base of the party is not persuaded by that. they feel strongly they lost last time because mitt romney was not conservative enough. chris christie is not even invited to some kind of conservative conferences because he threw his arm around president obama, and so racially what you say is completely correct, but, you know, the same people you're asking to be rational are the ones that were told it would be disas rous. they didn't detour them. they rallied around the shut down until they had to surrenderer but they have not surrendered for good. they mean what they are saying and i think, you know, people are in a state on denial how radical this party is and they won't be moved by mike bloomberg or chris christie or the bush -- you know, if jed bush gets into