present -- i don't have a problem with him apologizing now or a few days ago. but the central point should not be lost that there are definitely people who are spinning for the media who are trying to discredit the entire report and that's just not accurate. >> one of these e-mails. the whole point of the e-mails was that the white house simply didn't want congress to get -- >> you made that point. i want to move on. jane, i have a journalism question for you. if a confidential source that shares with you and this was a congressional source sharing with you written summaries and hand-written summaries of confidential e-mails. whi if that person lies, is your confidentiality agreement and do you have responsibility to come forth and i say, i was mislead and here is who did it. >> i think you have responsibility and i would say, i agree with rachel on this.