david brock said on msnbc that this is a huge victory for progressive radio. you're in progressive radio. when you look at this, do you view the fact they might get dropped by these 40 cumulus stations as a victory for progressive radio? >> no, i agree with michael that it is just a business deal. in fact i can take it a step further. it is the further vertical integration of the radio industry. clear channel owns premiere, the syndicating company that runs rush and sean's shows. and so they're moving that onto their stations. cumulus has their own syndication company, they bought the old abc radio networks so they want to move their own talent on. if you own the talent that you have on your local radio shows, then you get to capture the network minutes, advertising avenue -- >> so why did they say this is a victory for progressive radio, is that just wishful thinking? >> no, david brock and media matters were leading the boycott limbaugh crusade, which did