party. >> it sounds like you may agree with gabriel sherman's book about fox news says that roger ales has hurt the republican party. >> i think roger has done an incredible business. i don't know if he's hurt the republican party. but i don't think that all the voices that could potentially be heard for the republican party are being heard. people keep saying roger is a far right or conservative. i've never felt that roger aisles is that conservative. i think he's an american exceptionalist. he fiercely believes in american values and wants to promote those. i think some of the programming on fox has come across to a certain degree polarizing. i think the changes that they've made have helped them. i think you're seeing the ratings are way up. >> i tell you the reason i'm somewhat skeptical because cable and satellite providers seem to be very reluctant to add new channels to their systems.