legislators in the state of arizona and that is why i was to taken aback. she fully believes that it is credible according to the words that she said to me and she doesn't seem to want any other input in regards to that. she has sat down with oan, she has allowed them to have access to this audit and it's extraordinary. and the lack of other information coming in is what i find so alarming because of who she is, brian. >> oan, for those who don't know, very small cable channel, not rated by nielson and not very popular but it is a big fan base among the trump base and taken as gospel even though it has a long history of information. you have criteria for knowing what is reliable. before you tell us oan score, how do you determine what a reliable source is? >> sure.