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second marriage was loving and happy for both of them, boy, that's applying a kind of 2x4 to kill a mosquito. >> bottom line is dr. kaplan says have the conversation, as unpleasant as it might be. switching gears with you because you're the nation's foremost bioedgebio bioethicist. i need to ask you about dr. oz, he's come under fire, his faculty position with columbia, withdrawn. a, what's going on? b, what will be the future? >> the problem with dr. oz is that he's been promoting fringe cures, unproven things. you know, he's kind of got us eating blueberries to solve our cancer and prevent our parkinsonism and make our alzheimer's go away. and there's just no evidence that any of that is true. he's promoting too much, in my terms, fairy dust. so this is getting the medical community upset. after all, he's the most visible, most famous doctor in america. he's got a big platform.

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