whether or not you're asking whether nato would cross, we'd make that decision at the time. >> you are the former supreme allied commander. and if it's a non-nato nation that iswherein lies the authority for a nato response? >> well, for starters, very difficult to control weapons like chemical or biological. so, you could make the case, michael that you are, you, russia, are threatening nations because of lack of ability to control it. same as a tactical nuclear weapon, by the way. but i think what the president is referring to is, that is a step, using a weapon of mass destruction, that say step that would require nato to, the a minimum, consult and make decisions about responses. and i think the president is smart not to lay out exactly what we're going to do. where we're going to do it. because, michael, that response