easy to wear these masks and push a lot of buttons and dial in really smaller displays and so forth. you add a little obscuration like smoke in the cockpit. this can make it very challenging. as we talk through this and think about this, we should be mindful. as i know many of the folks on the panel with me tonight have done just that in training. that it is not as easy as it sounds. as we might be, as we're sitting in chairs thinking about actually performing it. >> yeah. >> i want to bring the retired navy captain in. you can give us some information. we've been talking about what possibly happened with the turn. we should be, should keep in mind that they are searching for debris from this plane over the indian ocean now. and they are up against really some treacherous waters. some really poor weather conditions. and if, he says here, hey, listen, he believes they're going to find this plane. it won't be easy, captain.