australia. the subsurface search has begun. i want to bring in my experts. geoffrey thomas, jeff wise, mary schiavo, les abend is a 777 captain. lieutenant colonel michael kay. and jim tilmon, retired american airlines pilot and steven marks. david soucie, did this press conference, with the head of this search, angus houston, make you optimistic -- no soucie. what about you, michael kay? >> in one respect, i am cautiously optimistic with this. i think the air chief had an upbeat tone to his presentation.