cross, which goes from being traced on a radar scope to suddenly disappearing off a radar scope. so it's incredibly difficult for anyone on that airplane trying to avoid radar to know whether they've avoided radar or not. and if you were going to do that, you would go the full extent and go 500, 700 miles off the coast to make absolutely sure and descend to make absolutely sure. we look at the track at the moment, and it looks fairly close to indonesia. so to me, if you're trying to avoid radar, you would have gone the other way and gone well out to about 500 to 700 miles. i'm a little bit dubious as to whether it would have been trying to avoid on purpose. if there were me, there is no rwr, radar warning receiver on this airplane. no one on the airplane knows whether they've been traced by a radar or not. so dubious. >> before we get to that, i want to make sure we can report it. it is confirmed. richard has new information. >> i was going to talk we're in this for the long haul. i have the press release from the jacc. >> go ahead.