we don't know. probably not. les, let's have you answer this one. this is from jojo wants to know. can ocean shield also deploy men in small boats with portable pinger detectors like the chinese did? well, we're not sure the chinese did anyway. but go ahead. >> listen, that's not my sorry of expertise. i'm not going to touch that one. ask me some pilot stuff and i'll try to answer that. >> mary schiavo, mary, you answer this from joe? can ocean shield also deploy men in small boats with portable pinger detectors like the chinese did? hang on. we can't hear mary. did we get mary yet? nope. no audio from mary. sorry, mary. so anyway, you choose not to answer that question. >> yes, sir. >> you stick with whatever. so as i said, we don't really even know if that's how they're picking it up by deploying the men in those boats.