with him when he talks about it tonight. the decision has not been made. >> paul, hillary clinclinton, da couple of points. bernie sanders down a couple points as well. what do you make if the vice president doesn't get in. what happens? >> right now the vice president in the polling data, seems to take a bit from both. sanders and secretary clinton. i think gloria is spot on. this is a man who has just been through hell and has been crushed and heartbroken. and he is a friend of mine. i love the guy. he is beloved across the democratic party. when i watch the tape of him in pittsburgh. at the steel workers labor day rally. boy, i thought there is, there is the joe biden who has run twice before. and he could really do it again. he had the that passion, energy. you read the quotes the you wonder. i just think, i think he has been honest. there is probably some moments where he feels like he has got this in me. and then there are moments where he doesn't the i think all of those, love him. care about him.