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CNN CNN Special Report July 7, 2024
President barrels toward conclusion, we put it all together. I got three men walking down a street carrying ar15s. The explosive testimony. I heard the president
Say Something
to the effect of, i dont care that they have weapons. Let me people in. New insight from witnesses. I said, you want me to take my state, 3. 2 million voters and just throw them out the window . Was he asking you to commit a crime . I dont know what he believed. The unanswered questions. I feel like we dont know the full story on the proud boys about oath keepers. And what might lie ahead. The former president and his allies represent a
Clear And Present Danger
to american democracy, not because of what they did on january 6th. You better run, cops its because of what they pledge to do in 2024. A cnn
Special Report
american coup, the january 6th investigation. In arizona, the republican
Speaker Of The House
rusty bowers is an artist by trade. Last february, bowers was thrown into a real life drama. The bill number was 2596. Two five nine six, one of more than 100 bills submitted in arizonaing to tighten access to the ballot box. The measure would have scrapped early voting. All voting would be on election day only. 90 of my district votes early. And it would have mandated paper ballots. Most egregious to rusty bowers was this. The legislature after the election could dismiss the election. I said welcome to fascism. So i said, i will give this the respect it deserves. Education. So i sent it to 12 committees so we would have a long vetting process. Military affairs. Typical is one or two. If it was a controversial bill, you might send it to three. Judiciary. I assigned it to 12 committees. Transportation. It was theatrical and i admit it. Its not an overstatement to say that because bowers stood up for democracy, he will not be in his state
Legislature Next
year. Im rusty bowers. Term limited in the state house, he ran in the republican primary for a state senate seat. I stood up to theed radicals. My opponent was
David Farnsworth
. Their positions on the major issues nearly identical except for one. I believe the election was stolen. Farnsworth bought into trumps election lies. Bowers did not. Arizona voters have picked
David Farnsworth
. Thats big. It is very possible that the bill that i assigned liberally to my committees will be back. The possibility of that getting a governors signature would just be a disaster. I call it the possibility of going back into the dark ages in arizona. The
United States
is headed into the 2022 elections with more at stake perhaps than ever before. From arizona to pennsylvania and georgia and all the socalled swing states, former
President Trump
is backing loyalists like
David Farnsworth
who not only support trumps lies about
Election Fraud
in 2020 but often have addressed a willingness to undo any future results they dont like under the pretense of trumped up fraud. The
House Select Committee
on january 6th has been
Holding Hearings
and giving the world extended details on what the
Committee Says
was a plot designed to keep trump as president in 2020. Whats the bottom line you want the
American People
to know from these hearings . There are several things. One is that there was a very sophisticated,
Multipart Plan
overseen by donald trump to attempt overturn the election. No president in our history has ever done anything even close to that before. Vice chair liz cheney, one of just two republicans on the committee, has spent the last year bucking her party and helping investigate
Donald Trumps
sophisticated
Multipart Plan
. The first piece the committee focused on were the lies. Mail ballots are very dangerous for this country because theyre cheaters. In the leadup to the election, donald trump had been talking about the possibility of widespread voter fraud for months. Voting by mail is wrought with fraud. People steal them out of mailboxes. Looking back, it was clear he was laying the groundwork for this. This is a fraud on the american public. This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election. Trump may have been crying widespread fraud, but he had no proof. What the former president did have proof of based on his own teams assessment of votes, was that he lost, a fact made clear by the january 6th committee which exposed to the world that so many trump aides despite t toeing the trump line in public are you expecting the president to concede . Thats not even in our vocabulary. Admissions they were forced to make under oath, that he did lose legitimately. I was in the oval office. At some point in the conversation the lead data person was brought on and i remember he delivered to the president pretty blunt terms that he was going to lose. Trump
Campaign Attorneys
followed up on all of the fraud claims and quickly concluded that fraud did not take the election from donald trump. Voters did. The news was told to trumps
Chief Of Staff
at the white house, mark meadows, in mid to late november. I remember a call with mr. Meadows. I remember sharing with him that we werent finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. During a meeting several weeks later the president got the same message from his white
House Counsel
,
Pat Cipallone
and another white house lawyer eric hirschman. It is statistically impossible that the person, me, that led the charge lost. But donald trump continued to refuse to publicly accept defeat. The evidence of the fraud is monumental and more is coming out. Audacious claims of widespread fraud became a daily occurrence. Numerous times we found glitches. Every single time the glitch went 100 to biden and no percent to trump. The only thing left is the vote. That could have been mickey mouse. That could have been a dead person. Standing near giuliani is an attorney named
Sidney Powell
who became the face of one of the most notorious and, frankly, most deranged lies, that dominion
Voting Machines
were flipping votes for trump to biden. The
Dominion Voting Systems
were created in venezuela at the direction of hugo chavez to make sure he never lost an election. After she was sued by dominion, powells attorney conceded that powell lied, saying, quote, no reasonable person would conclude that her statements were truly statements of fact, unquote. Long before that happened, the president s
Attorney General
bill barr was investigating all of trumps fraud claims. It was getting awkward because obviously he had lost the election. Barr said he made it clear to donald trump at a
November 23rd
meeting that he had lost. Our role is to investigate fraud. Its just not meritorious. Theyre not panning out. He was going to win in spite of all the fraud. Spurred on by the most ardent election liars including many in maga media. Clearly the president won this election. Donald trump would not listen to reason or fact. Where is the doj and the fbi in all of this, mr. President . Missing in action. This got under my skin, but i also felt it was time for me to
Say Something
. So i set up a lunch with the a. P. Reporter and i told him that to date we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election. A heated trump barr meeting followed. Barr got another opportunity to def debunk the lies. Among the claims he focused on were the ones about dominion
Voting Machines
. With the turn of a dial or change of a chip, you could press a button for trump and the vote goes to biden. I told him the stuff his people were shoveling out to the public was bullshit. I specifically raised the dominion
Voting Machines
. I saw zero basis for the allegations. But they were made in such a sensational way, they obviously were influencing a lot of people. Before the end of december, barr had quit. His replacement, acting
Attorney General
jeffrey rosen, who came with a blunt yet low key acting
Deputy Attorney
general named richard donoghue. Like barr, rosen and donahue took seriously and thoroughly investigated each of the fraud claims coming from then
President Trump
. Donahue spoke with the president in late december and told him the truth about numerous false claims, including one about dominion machines in north michigan. There you had a supposed
Cyber Expert Group
issue a report that said there was a 68 error rate. There was not a 68 error rate. In fact, it was a. 006 error rate. He debunked claims trump made about the
Vote Counting
at the
State Farm Arena
in georgia. I see people walking in with suitcases and putting them under a table with a black robe around it. There were allegations of fraudulent ballots being brought into the facility. Ballots being run through multiple times. The u. S. Attorney looked at it and found none of those allegations were true. Rosen then forwarded an email from
Chief Of Staff
mark meadows asking the department of justice to look into the possibility that italian satellites were changing votes from trump to biden. They sent these new numbers back up through this
Italian Military
satellite. I was skeptical, to say the least. We very quickly determined that was not a wellfounded allegation, and we told the
Chief Of Staff
and others as well. Whiskey tango foxtrot. Whats going on over there . In the courts, the usual venue for claims about voting misconduct, the president s team lost over and over again. Courts again shutting down more desperate attempts to overturn an election. You were on george w. Bushs short list for the supreme court. Youre not some raging liberal, is that fair . Totally fair. Michael ludig is a highly respected
Retired Federal Court
judge. He and his colleague s analyzed more than 60 cases. We reviewed each claim and decided there was nothing that would change the result in a single precinct, let alone a single state, let alone nationally. Ahead we were asked to do something thats against my oath. Im not going to do that. Donald trump puts the squeeze on state house leaders across the country. Going to have a big impact on tuesday if you guys dont get this thing straightened out fast. Does it worry me . Absolutely. Sensodyne sensitivity gum gives us the dual
Action Effect
that really takes care of both our
Teeth Sensitivity
as well as our gum issues. Theres no question its something that i would recommend. New superstay vinyl ink. From maybelline new york. Shake up your longwear with no budge vinyl color. Color lock formula up to 16hr wear. New superstay vinyl ink. Maybelline new york. Were carvana we created a brand new way for you to sell your car go to carvana answer a few questions and our
Techno Wizardry
calculates your cars value and gives you a real offer in seconds well come to you pay you on the spot then pick up your car thats it at carvana come on guys, eat your food, lets go i wanna taste your banana pudding, you taste my banana pudding. Its on. Its on. Its on. [laughter] i was gonna say, will you marry me . [screaming and cheering] [screaming and cheering] is my makeup messy . Yes, its messy [laughter] finding the perfect developer isnt easy. But, at upwork, we found her. Shes in prague between the ideal cup of coffee and a truly impressive synthesizer collection. And you can find her right now lepsi . on upwork. Com lepsi. when the world is your workforce, finding the perfect project manager, designer, developer, or whomever you may need. Tends to fall right into place. Find toprated talent who can start today on upwork. Com whats the 1
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Deep Wrinkles
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Bank Of America
company. So i take the call and step out, go in the house. I had a chat with the president with bad
Phone Reception
and back down in front of the house where i get better reception. Rudy giuliani was on the line too. Bowers says it was giuliani who began making crazy claims about voter fraudin arizona. I cant give you the exact numbers but ill throw out numbers but theyre kind of of the audacious numbers like 200,000
Illegal Aliens
voted. 6,000
Military Ballots
were stolen and used. Bowers says giuliani wanted him to hold an official
Arizona House
hearing to air these claims publicly. And then i said but whats the mole purpose of this . What are you trying to achieve . And he said, well, weve heard theres an arcane law in arizona that if you have sufficient cause that you can throw out the biden electors including trump electors, and i said thats a new one to me. Ive never, ever heard of that. And so now youre asking me to do something thats against my oath, and im not going to do that. But bowers says he told giuliani he had good lawyers and would be happy to put the former mayor in touch with them. I dont do anything of this magnitude without having strong,
Legal Counsel
and proof. And the president says, rudy, youve got the proof. Yeah, ive got the proof. I said i want the proof. I didnt get it when he said hed do it. He never called my attorneys. But the asks did not stop with giuliani. Bowers would later get a call from another trump attorney, john eastman. We know there was fraud. Whom the january 6th
Committee Sees
as a key player in this grand plan to undo the legitimate results of the 2020 president ial election. The ask was kind of that we would throw out the electors, and i said has it ever been done . He said, no. I said, you want me to take my state, 3. 2 million voters, and just throw them out the window because i want to . And thats responsible on my part . I said, okay, thank you. Were not doing that. Bowers kept his caucus on the side lines, but in the
Arizona Senate
republicans there yielded to pressure from team trump and voted to conduct an audit of the results in arizonas largest county. When they got the cyber ninjas i thought ill watch, this will be interesting. I dont want to be close to that. You might remember the ninjas. The company was run by a trump supporter. They employed
Ultraviolet Lights
which could supposedly identify ballots from china. They came out that mr. Biden won by a larger margin than previously, and mr. Trump lost a number of votes. Bowers and his colleagues in arizona were not the only
State Officials
to feel the heat from trump and or giuliani. Material discovered by the january 6th committee showed it happened over and over across the swing states that biden won. Mr. Speaker, this is
Rudy Giuliani
and genet ellis. In
Pennsylvania Bowers
counterpart brian cutler got the calls. Hello, mr. Speaker. This is janet ellis, and im here with mayor giuliani. Hey, brian, its rudy. I really have something important to call to your attention that i think really changes things. The january 6th
Committee Says
cutler thought the calls were inappropriate and had his lawyers tell giuliani to stop them. I understand you dont want to talk to me now. I just want to bring some facts to your attention. And then there was georgia where the republican
Secretary Of State
Brad Raffensperger
got an hour long call from
President Trump
. Brad, what are we going to do . We won the election and its not fair to take it away from us like this. Trump probably put more pressure on
Brad Raffensperger
than anyone else. It was immense. All i want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes. And i think its the phone call that everyone remembers that was later leaked where he in turn berated
Brad Raffensperger
. Theyre going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, brad. He praised him. He seemed to try to charm him at times and even indicated that if he did not act that there could be criminal liability for those actions. Youre not reporting it. Thats just you know, thats a criminal thats a criminal offense. And it was not just pressure. There were threats, usually from
Say Something<\/a> to the effect of, i dont care that they have weapons. Let me people in. New insight from witnesses. I said, you want me to take my state, 3. 2 million voters and just throw them out the window . Was he asking you to commit a crime . I dont know what he believed. The unanswered questions. I feel like we dont know the full story on the proud boys about oath keepers. And what might lie ahead. The former president and his allies represent a
Clear And Present Danger<\/a> to american democracy, not because of what they did on january 6th. You better run, cops its because of what they pledge to do in 2024. A cnn
Special Report<\/a> american coup, the january 6th investigation. In arizona, the republican
Speaker Of The House<\/a> rusty bowers is an artist by trade. Last february, bowers was thrown into a real life drama. The bill number was 2596. Two five nine six, one of more than 100 bills submitted in arizonaing to tighten access to the ballot box. The measure would have scrapped early voting. All voting would be on election day only. 90 of my district votes early. And it would have mandated paper ballots. Most egregious to rusty bowers was this. The legislature after the election could dismiss the election. I said welcome to fascism. So i said, i will give this the respect it deserves. Education. So i sent it to 12 committees so we would have a long vetting process. Military affairs. Typical is one or two. If it was a controversial bill, you might send it to three. Judiciary. I assigned it to 12 committees. Transportation. It was theatrical and i admit it. Its not an overstatement to say that because bowers stood up for democracy, he will not be in his state
Legislature Next<\/a> year. Im rusty bowers. Term limited in the state house, he ran in the republican primary for a state senate seat. I stood up to theed radicals. My opponent was
David Farnsworth<\/a>. Their positions on the major issues nearly identical except for one. I believe the election was stolen. Farnsworth bought into trumps election lies. Bowers did not. Arizona voters have picked
David Farnsworth<\/a>. Thats big. It is very possible that the bill that i assigned liberally to my committees will be back. The possibility of that getting a governors signature would just be a disaster. I call it the possibility of going back into the dark ages in arizona. The
United States<\/a> is headed into the 2022 elections with more at stake perhaps than ever before. From arizona to pennsylvania and georgia and all the socalled swing states, former
President Trump<\/a> is backing loyalists like
David Farnsworth<\/a> who not only support trumps lies about
Election Fraud<\/a> in 2020 but often have addressed a willingness to undo any future results they dont like under the pretense of trumped up fraud. The
House Select Committee<\/a> on january 6th has been
Holding Hearings<\/a> and giving the world extended details on what the
Committee Says<\/a> was a plot designed to keep trump as president in 2020. Whats the bottom line you want the
American People<\/a> to know from these hearings . There are several things. One is that there was a very sophisticated,
Multipart Plan<\/a> overseen by donald trump to attempt overturn the election. No president in our history has ever done anything even close to that before. Vice chair liz cheney, one of just two republicans on the committee, has spent the last year bucking her party and helping investigate
Donald Trumps<\/a> sophisticated
Multipart Plan<\/a>. The first piece the committee focused on were the lies. Mail ballots are very dangerous for this country because theyre cheaters. In the leadup to the election, donald trump had been talking about the possibility of widespread voter fraud for months. Voting by mail is wrought with fraud. People steal them out of mailboxes. Looking back, it was clear he was laying the groundwork for this. This is a fraud on the american public. This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election. Trump may have been crying widespread fraud, but he had no proof. What the former president did have proof of based on his own teams assessment of votes, was that he lost, a fact made clear by the january 6th committee which exposed to the world that so many trump aides despite t toeing the trump line in public are you expecting the president to concede . Thats not even in our vocabulary. Admissions they were forced to make under oath, that he did lose legitimately. I was in the oval office. At some point in the conversation the lead data person was brought on and i remember he delivered to the president pretty blunt terms that he was going to lose. Trump
Campaign Attorneys<\/a> followed up on all of the fraud claims and quickly concluded that fraud did not take the election from donald trump. Voters did. The news was told to trumps
Chief Of Staff<\/a> at the white house, mark meadows, in mid to late november. I remember a call with mr. Meadows. I remember sharing with him that we werent finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. During a meeting several weeks later the president got the same message from his white
House Counsel<\/a>,
Pat Cipallone<\/a> and another white house lawyer eric hirschman. It is statistically impossible that the person, me, that led the charge lost. But donald trump continued to refuse to publicly accept defeat. The evidence of the fraud is monumental and more is coming out. Audacious claims of widespread fraud became a daily occurrence. Numerous times we found glitches. Every single time the glitch went 100 to biden and no percent to trump. The only thing left is the vote. That could have been mickey mouse. That could have been a dead person. Standing near giuliani is an attorney named
Sidney Powell<\/a> who became the face of one of the most notorious and, frankly, most deranged lies, that dominion
Voting Machines<\/a> were flipping votes for trump to biden. The
Dominion Voting Systems<\/a> were created in venezuela at the direction of hugo chavez to make sure he never lost an election. After she was sued by dominion, powells attorney conceded that powell lied, saying, quote, no reasonable person would conclude that her statements were truly statements of fact, unquote. Long before that happened, the president s
Attorney General<\/a> bill barr was investigating all of trumps fraud claims. It was getting awkward because obviously he had lost the election. Barr said he made it clear to donald trump at a
November 23rd<\/a> meeting that he had lost. Our role is to investigate fraud. Its just not meritorious. Theyre not panning out. He was going to win in spite of all the fraud. Spurred on by the most ardent election liars including many in maga media. Clearly the president won this election. Donald trump would not listen to reason or fact. Where is the doj and the fbi in all of this, mr. President . Missing in action. This got under my skin, but i also felt it was time for me to
Say Something<\/a>. So i set up a lunch with the a. P. Reporter and i told him that to date we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election. A heated trump barr meeting followed. Barr got another opportunity to def debunk the lies. Among the claims he focused on were the ones about dominion
Voting Machines<\/a>. With the turn of a dial or change of a chip, you could press a button for trump and the vote goes to biden. I told him the stuff his people were shoveling out to the public was bullshit. I specifically raised the dominion
Voting Machines<\/a>. I saw zero basis for the allegations. But they were made in such a sensational way, they obviously were influencing a lot of people. Before the end of december, barr had quit. His replacement, acting
Attorney General<\/a> jeffrey rosen, who came with a blunt yet low key acting
Deputy Attorney<\/a> general named richard donoghue. Like barr, rosen and donahue took seriously and thoroughly investigated each of the fraud claims coming from then
President Trump<\/a>. Donahue spoke with the president in late december and told him the truth about numerous false claims, including one about dominion machines in north michigan. There you had a supposed
Cyber Expert Group<\/a> issue a report that said there was a 68 error rate. There was not a 68 error rate. In fact, it was a. 006 error rate. He debunked claims trump made about the
Vote Counting<\/a> at the
State Farm Arena<\/a> in georgia. I see people walking in with suitcases and putting them under a table with a black robe around it. There were allegations of fraudulent ballots being brought into the facility. Ballots being run through multiple times. The u. S. Attorney looked at it and found none of those allegations were true. Rosen then forwarded an email from
Chief Of Staff<\/a> mark meadows asking the department of justice to look into the possibility that italian satellites were changing votes from trump to biden. They sent these new numbers back up through this
Italian Military<\/a> satellite. I was skeptical, to say the least. We very quickly determined that was not a wellfounded allegation, and we told the
Chief Of Staff<\/a> and others as well. Whiskey tango foxtrot. Whats going on over there . In the courts, the usual venue for claims about voting misconduct, the president s team lost over and over again. Courts again shutting down more desperate attempts to overturn an election. You were on george w. Bushs short list for the supreme court. Youre not some raging liberal, is that fair . Totally fair. Michael ludig is a highly respected
Retired Federal Court<\/a> judge. He and his colleague s analyzed more than 60 cases. We reviewed each claim and decided there was nothing that would change the result in a single precinct, let alone a single state, let alone nationally. Ahead we were asked to do something thats against my oath. Im not going to do that. Donald trump puts the squeeze on state house leaders across the country. Going to have a big impact on tuesday if you guys dont get this thing straightened out fast. Does it worry me . Absolutely. Sensodyne sensitivity gum gives us the dual
Action Effect<\/a> that really takes care of both our
Teeth Sensitivity<\/a> as well as our gum issues. Theres no question its something that i would recommend. New superstay vinyl ink. From maybelline new york. Shake up your longwear with no budge vinyl color. Color lock formula up to 16hr wear. New superstay vinyl ink. Maybelline new york. Were carvana we created a brand new way for you to sell your car go to carvana answer a few questions and our
Techno Wizardry<\/a> calculates your cars value and gives you a real offer in seconds well come to you pay you on the spot then pick up your car thats it at carvana come on guys, eat your food, lets go i wanna taste your banana pudding, you taste my banana pudding. Its on. Its on. Its on. [laughter] i was gonna say, will you marry me . [screaming and cheering] [screaming and cheering] is my makeup messy . Yes, its messy [laughter] finding the perfect developer isnt easy. But, at upwork, we found her. Shes in prague between the ideal cup of coffee and a truly impressive synthesizer collection. And you can find her right now lepsi . on upwork. Com lepsi. when the world is your workforce, finding the perfect project manager, designer, developer, or whomever you may need. Tends to fall right into place. Find toprated talent who can start today on upwork. Com whats the 1
Retinol Brand<\/a> used most by dermatologists . Its neutrogena\u00ae rapid wrinkle repair\u00ae smooths the look of fine lines in 1week,
Deep Wrinkles<\/a> in 4. So you can kiss wrinkles goodbye neutrogena\u00ae ever wonder what everyones doing on their phones . Theyre investing with merrill. Think miss allen is texting for backup . No shes totally in charge. Of her portfolio and daniel g. Shes building a greener future and hes. Running a pretend restaurant. And phil . Phil has questions, but none of them are about his portfolio. Digital tools so impressive, your money never stops working for you with merrill, a
Bank Of America<\/a> company. So i take the call and step out, go in the house. I had a chat with the president with bad
Phone Reception<\/a> and back down in front of the house where i get better reception. Rudy giuliani was on the line too. Bowers says it was giuliani who began making crazy claims about voter fraudin arizona. I cant give you the exact numbers but ill throw out numbers but theyre kind of of the audacious numbers like 200,000
Illegal Aliens<\/a> voted. 6,000
Military Ballots<\/a> were stolen and used. Bowers says giuliani wanted him to hold an official
Arizona House<\/a> hearing to air these claims publicly. And then i said but whats the mole purpose of this . What are you trying to achieve . And he said, well, weve heard theres an arcane law in arizona that if you have sufficient cause that you can throw out the biden electors including trump electors, and i said thats a new one to me. Ive never, ever heard of that. And so now youre asking me to do something thats against my oath, and im not going to do that. But bowers says he told giuliani he had good lawyers and would be happy to put the former mayor in touch with them. I dont do anything of this magnitude without having strong,
Legal Counsel<\/a> and proof. And the president says, rudy, youve got the proof. Yeah, ive got the proof. I said i want the proof. I didnt get it when he said hed do it. He never called my attorneys. But the asks did not stop with giuliani. Bowers would later get a call from another trump attorney, john eastman. We know there was fraud. Whom the january 6th
Committee Sees<\/a> as a key player in this grand plan to undo the legitimate results of the 2020 president ial election. The ask was kind of that we would throw out the electors, and i said has it ever been done . He said, no. I said, you want me to take my state, 3. 2 million voters, and just throw them out the window because i want to . And thats responsible on my part . I said, okay, thank you. Were not doing that. Bowers kept his caucus on the side lines, but in the
Arizona Senate<\/a> republicans there yielded to pressure from team trump and voted to conduct an audit of the results in arizonas largest county. When they got the cyber ninjas i thought ill watch, this will be interesting. I dont want to be close to that. You might remember the ninjas. The company was run by a trump supporter. They employed
Ultraviolet Lights<\/a> which could supposedly identify ballots from china. They came out that mr. Biden won by a larger margin than previously, and mr. Trump lost a number of votes. Bowers and his colleagues in arizona were not the only
State Officials<\/a> to feel the heat from trump and or giuliani. Material discovered by the january 6th committee showed it happened over and over across the swing states that biden won. Mr. Speaker, this is
Rudy Giuliani<\/a> and genet ellis. In
Pennsylvania Bowers<\/a> counterpart brian cutler got the calls. Hello, mr. Speaker. This is janet ellis, and im here with mayor giuliani. Hey, brian, its rudy. I really have something important to call to your attention that i think really changes things. The january 6th
Committee Says<\/a> cutler thought the calls were inappropriate and had his lawyers tell giuliani to stop them. I understand you dont want to talk to me now. I just want to bring some facts to your attention. And then there was georgia where the republican
Secretary Of State<\/a>
Brad Raffensperger<\/a> got an hour long call from
President Trump<\/a>. Brad, what are we going to do . We won the election and its not fair to take it away from us like this. Trump probably put more pressure on
Brad Raffensperger<\/a> than anyone else. It was immense. All i want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes. And i think its the phone call that everyone remembers that was later leaked where he in turn berated
Brad Raffensperger<\/a>. Theyre going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, brad. He praised him. He seemed to try to charm him at times and even indicated that if he did not act that there could be criminal liability for those actions. Youre not reporting it. Thats just you know, thats a criminal thats a criminal offense. And it was not just pressure. There were threats, usually from
Trump Supporters<\/a> who
Felt Empowered<\/a> or incited by him. Take for instance the two men in this hummer with a qanon decal. Prosecutors say they drove the vehicle filled with
Automatic Weapons<\/a> and ammunition from virginia to the
Philadelphia Convention<\/a> center in early november 2020, where votes were still being counted. At the time al schmidt was the republican responsible for overseeing the vote count in philadelphia. He received threats aimed at his family. Tell the truth or your three kids will be fatally shot. It included our address. It included our childrens names. It included a picture of our home. And the
Republican House<\/a> speaker in that state had protesters show up at his home. There were multiple protests, at least three outside either my
District Office<\/a> or my home. My then 15yearold son was home by himself for the first one. In georgia
Brad Raffensperger<\/a>s wife received disturbing messages. People started threatening her, sending her sexualized texts, those kind of intimidations. Georgia election worker shea moss testified before the
House Select Committee<\/a> about threats she received via facebook messenger. A lot of threats wishing death upon me, telling me that, you know, ill be in jail with my mother. These threats happened after
Rudy Giuliani<\/a> spread lies about her and her mother, ruby freeman, who was counting votes with moss at
State Farm Arena<\/a> in atlanta on election night. Tape earlier in the day of ruby freeman and
Shea Freeman Moss<\/a> and one other gentleman quite obviously surreptitiously passing around as if theyre vials of heroin or cocaine. Its obvious to anyone whos a criminal investigator or prosecutor theyre engaged in surreptitious illegal activity. What was your mom actually handing you on that video . A ginger mint. This turned my life upside down. I dont want anyone knowing my name. I dont want to go anywhere with my mom because she might yell my name out over the
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Adam Kinzinger<\/a> of illinois, the only republican on the january 6th committee other than liz cheney, says all the threats are part of trumps plan. I dont think you can look at the words and actions of donald trump and think that he wanted anything except the explosion of these threats to people. He could stop that in a second if he wanted to, but he liked it. There are a lot of members of congress that i think voted against impeachment because they were scared for their family and for themselves. What does that mean . It means threats of violence worked. Up next they suggested that he use the apparatus of government to seize
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United States<\/a> take a moment to mark your ballots. On december 14, 2020, all 50 u. S. States formally certified their results as their citizens had voted. Your resolution is unanimously adopted. And that, according to the january 6th committee, is what led to a boisterous white house meeting with the president considered horrifying action. On
December 18th<\/a> three people, one of them trumps security advisor mike flynn, his lawyer sydney powell, and patrick bern, the founder of overstock. Com were let into the white house by an aide to peter navarro, another trump advisor. Trump saw them, called them into the oval office, and they start arguing the case where everyone else is failing trump and that trump can take aggressive actions to keep himself in power and to try to impact the results of an election that he had already lost. They suggested that he use the apparatus of government to seize
Voting Machines<\/a>. And as this meeting is taking place, another lawyer in the white house, eric kerchman, figures out whats happening, calls in the white
House Counsel<\/a>,
Pat Cipollone<\/a>. On his
Last Day Of Work<\/a> joins,
Rudy Giuliani<\/a> gets a call in, and this goes on for hours. How much time did you have alone with the president i say alone. You had other people with you, but before the crowd came running . Probably no more than 10 or 15 minutes. Was in that
Pat Cipollone<\/a> set a new land speed record. I opened the door and i walked in, saw general flynn. I saw sydney powell sitting there. I was not happy to see the people in the oval office. I dont think any of these people were providing the president with good advice. The team had arrived with a
Draft Executive Order<\/a> that had it been signed by donald trump, would have immediately ordered the secretary of defense to seize, collect, retain, and analyze ballot boxes, and it would have created, quote, a
Special Counsel<\/a> to oversee the operation and institute all criminal and civil proceedings as appropriate. This is a draft of the
Executive Order<\/a> that would have allowed trump to seize
Voting Machines<\/a>. What was your reaction when you heard about this . I think most americans could never imagine those things would happen here. And that order and many of the other things we learned through our hearings have been really stunning to me, because repeatedly i found myself in a situation thinking, my gosh, how could this happen here . And we really thought it couldnt but it just continued to emphasize for all of us that our institutions are fragile. The appointment of the
Special Counsel<\/a> was not hypothetical. Trump wanted sydney powell, a prominent peddler of election lies, in the spot. He asked
Pat Cipollone<\/a> if he had the authority to name me
Special Counsel<\/a>, and he said yes. And then he asked him does he have the authority to give me whatever
Security Clearance<\/a> i needed. And
Pat Cipollone<\/a> said yes. And then the president said, okay, you know, im naming her that and im giving her
Security Clearance<\/a>. And then shortly before we left was when cipollone and or hershman and whoever the other young man was said you can name her whatever you want to name her and no ones going to pay any attention to it. How did you respond how did the president respond to that . Something like you see what i deal with . I deal with this all the time. The meeting was extremely heated with cipollone arguing against the
Special Counsel<\/a> idea and against seizure of
Voting Machines<\/a>. Can the federal government seize
Voting Machines<\/a> . Its a terrible idea. Thats not how we do things in the
United States<\/a>. Theres no
Legal Authority<\/a> to do that. The three of them were forcefully attacking me, eric, derek, and we were pushing back and we were asking one simple question as a general matter. Where is the evidence . What response did you get . A variety of responses. Like what do you mean wheres the evidence . You should know. There was a discussion of we dont have it but we will have it or whatever. She says, well, the judges are corrupt, and i was like every one, every single case youve done in the country, every one is corrupt, even the ones weve appointed . And im being nice but i was much more harsh to her. The meeting very nearly devolved into a physical fight. One screamed at me i was a quitter and everything and standing up and standing around and screaming at me. And at a certain point i had it with him so i yelled back. Had to come overandback down. Im going to categorically describe it as you guys are not tough enough, or maybe i put it another way youre a bunch of excuse the expression, but im almost certain the word was used. If had been me sitting in that chair i would have had him fired that night and escorted out of the building. The january 6th
Committee Received<\/a>
Text Messages<\/a> sent during, and following the meeting by cassidy hutchinson, the assistant who testified live before the
Committee Hearing<\/a> in june describing the meeting as unhinged. She also snapped this photograph of
Mark Meadows Escorting<\/a>
Rudy Giuliani<\/a> from the white house to make sure he did not get back into the mansion. You tweeted, quote, somehow the
Committee Testimony<\/a> featured live underplay how crazy that
December 18th Meeting<\/a> was. How was it an underplay . Because donald trump faded into the background as this was all being described. One of the ways in which donald trump has escaped a lot of accountability over time is he gets people fighting with each other, and thats what people focus on. He considered extreme, really unprecedented actions. Now, he didnt take them, but he was unwilling to foreclose options until the last possible second no matter how extreme and and potentially dangerous they were. I remember talking to you after that meeting, and you were shaking. I was. And it was, frankly it took a little bit to process exactly what had happened. But i remember getting a text from a
Senior Republican Senate<\/a> advisor asking me if there was going to be an issue in terms of a peaceful transfer of power after this. And i said, yes, there is a legitimate issue here. And i think that was a real young warning sign. It was floated this
Idea By Retired General<\/a>
Michael Flynn<\/a> in the oval office that donald trump should seize
Voting Machines<\/a> and ballot boxes from these states that joe biden won. What was your reaction when you heard that . I said to my wife this is beyond all comprehension. I never utter a word like this, but that in particular sounded in in a
Banana Republic<\/a> to me. Had that happened we would have been in a situation where literally were in a constitutional crisis because nothing in our constitution gives you the answer. At the end of the evening no
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Voting Machines<\/a>,
President Trump<\/a> sent a tweet that would change history. Big protests in d. C. On january 6th, it read. Be there. Will be wild. What he wanted was to show these lawmakers not just in washington but everyone who is telling him he lost the election, he wanted to show them that people agree with him and people backed his lies about the election. Donald trump was summoning his
True Believers<\/a> to washington, d. C. And evidence pieced together by the january 6th committee shows they heard that call and began planning immediately. Women for
America First<\/a> to protrump organizing group had previously applied for a rally permit for january 22nd and 23rd in washington, d. C. , but hours after the tweet they moved their permit to january 6th. The next day a trump supporter and leader of the group, stop the steal, created a website to share and promote logistics about the rally. It included event times, places, speakers, and details on transportation to washington, d. C. Far right personalities such as
Conspiracy Theorists<\/a> alex jones almost immediately began spreading the word on their platforms. One of the most
Historic Events<\/a> in
American History<\/a> has just taken place. President trump wants the
American People<\/a> to march on washington, d. C. On january 6, 2021. The time for games is over. The time for action is now. As word spread it became clear the trump faithful who planned to attend were also planning for the possibility of violence. We know the rules of engagement. If you have enough people you can push down any kind of a fence or a wall. You better understand something, son. You better understand something. Red wave theres going to be a red wedding going down january 6th. The term red wedding means a massacre. January 6th, kick that door open, look down the street. There are going to be a million plus geeked up armed americans. Some of trumps twitter followers did consider his tweets to be orders. Thats according to a former twitter employee whose identity was hidden while testifying to the committee. It felt as if a mob was being organized, and they were gathering together their weaponry and their logic and their reasoning behind why they were prepared to fight. Members of the
Committee Say<\/a> they were finding similar types of chatter across social media platforms. Quote, calling all patriots, be in washington, d. C. January 6th. This wasnt organized by any group. Djt has invited us, and its going to be wild. Some of the online rhetoric turned openly homicidal and
White Nationalist<\/a> such as, why dont we just kill them, every last democrat down to the last man, woman and child. And its time for the day of the rope. White revolution is the only solution. The donald dot win, an openly racist and antisemitic site became a way for racists to share their ideas. On that site many shared threats. A commenter replied suggesting zip ties instead. One post encouraged others to come with body armor, knuckles, shields, bats, pepper spray, whatever it takes. All of those were used on the 6th. The post concluded join your local proud boys chapter as well. According to the committee, the proud boys a farright militia was active during this time preparing for january 6th. Proud boys launched an encrypted chat called the ministry of selfdefense. The committee obtained hundreds of these messages which show strategic and
Tactical Planning<\/a> about january 6th including maps of washington, d. C. That pinpoint the location of police. Even more alarming some of the people making plans in the proud boys and in the oath keepers, another rightwing militia, had direct ties to people close to donald trump. One such ally was
Lieutenant General<\/a>
Michael Flynn<\/a>, trumps former
National Security<\/a> advisor. This photo from
December 12th Shows Flynn<\/a> and patrick burn, another trump ally indicted by trump oath keeper another shows
Steward Rhodes<\/a> in the picture as well. Both minuta and rhodes have been charged with seditious conspiracy, conspiring to use force against the federal government. Theyve pleaded not guilty. Ten other oath keepers and five proud boys have also been charged with seditious conspiracy. Three oath keepers have pleaded guilty. According to members of the committee,
Longtime Trump<\/a> ally roger stone also had ties to these groups. In the same time frame stone communicated with both the proud boys and the oath keepers regularly. The committee obtained encrypted content from a group chat called friends of stone, fos, which included stone, rhodes, tario, and ali alexander. Tario is leader of the proud boys. The chat focused on events in november and
December Of 2020<\/a> as well as january 6th. On january 6th stone was guarded by two oath keepers who have since been criminally indicted for seditious conspiracy. One of them later pleaded guilty and according to the department of justice admitted the oath keepers were ready to use, quote, lethal force if necessary against anyone who tried to remove
President Trump<\/a> from the white house including the national guard. Members of the
Committee Say<\/a> roger stones connection to the proud boys goes back years and showed him taking the oath required for the first level of initiation into the group. There are some missing pieces in the
Public Record<\/a> such as what, if anything, did donald trump or anyone inside the white house know about the organizing by the far right militias . The night before january 6th
President Trump<\/a> instructed his
Chief Of Staff<\/a>, mark meadows, to contact both roger stone and
Michael Flynn<\/a> regarding what would play out the next day. Ms. Hutchinson is it your understanding that mr. Meadows called mr. Stone on the 5th . I am under the impression that mr. Meadows did complete a call to mr. Stone and general flynn on that evening of the 5th. I feel like we dont know the story behind the proud boys and oath keepers. I think the committee is trying to get to the bottom of what white house officials may have coordinated with or spoken to the proud boys. Why were they talking . Theres stuff we know. Weve put some of it out. Theres more depth well be putting out maybe within the report or maybe the next hearings. Whats important is that he was going through the process of selling that the election was stolen and convincing folks, look, if you believe an election was stolen from you, violence is the only answer, quite honestly. Thats the american tradition. If you truly believe the sk constitution is being disobeyed, every american would be in the capital. Donald trump puts the squeeze on justice. Everyone wants it. This does it true match nude tinted serum. 1
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Election Fraud<\/a> claims. Did you have any apprehension of becoming
Deputy Attorney<\/a> general . No, i didnt have concerns about that. I had a great deal of confidence in the team. I wanted to be part of the team. You want to be there when it matters. You cant ever accept when they steal and rig and rob. Cant accept. After
Attorney General<\/a> bill barr resigned,
Richard Donohue<\/a> was appoint to the number two position in the department of justice. The deputy to jeffrey rosen, the new acting
Attorney General<\/a>. The two men inherited a department under constant and public attack by the sitting president of the
United States<\/a>. Fighting to hold on to an election. He falsely claimed had been stolen. Trump thought the
Justice Department<\/a> was an arm of his presidency and a way for him to tell them what to do and they should do his bidding and what he wanted. As the new targets of trump rosen and donohue fielded near daily complaints from donald trump. Between
December 23rd<\/a> and january 3rd, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day. The
Common Element<\/a> of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that the
Justice Department<\/a> in his view had not done enough to investigate
Election Fraud<\/a>. But they were investigating. The department of justice had been debunking trumps wild
Election Fraud<\/a> lies one by one. But
President Trump<\/a> chose to not listen. On a
December 27th<\/a> phone call with rosen and donohue,
President Trump<\/a> said the department had an obligation to quote tell people that this was an illegal corrupt election despite no evidence of wide spread fraud. Trump also pressed them to publicly quote just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. There was an exact quote from the president. It indicated that he had some political avenue he wanted to pursue with the congress, but by him telling us that we should say publicly it was corrupt, that concerned me. What he intended was for the department of justice to say we have indications there was corruption because from there you can take that seed of doubt and donald trump and republican members of congress can water it. They can grow that doubt and then through there, you could do things like get people to vote against certification on january 6th. As long as rosen and donohue were in charge, they told the president they would not publicly back his false
Election Fraud<\/a> claims. So trump had to find someone who would help him do what he wanted to steal the election. Jeff clarks name had come up on
December 27th<\/a> on a phone call. He bought it up and said people are telling me to change the leadership. People are telling me you two are not doing your job. I hear jeff clark is great. People tell me he can get in there and do something and it was surprising to me. Surprising because the president would have no reason to even know who
Jeffrey Clark<\/a> was. Even within the department, you know, very few people had really heard of
Jeffrey Clark<\/a>. But donald trump had. Unbeknownst to rosen and donohue, scott perry had brought clark to the oval office to meet with
President Trump<\/a> on december 22nd. The day after perry had been amongst republican members of congress who joined trump at the white house to discuss overturning the 2020 election. Trump also mentioned jeff clark on a separate call with rosen. He made what i regarded as a peculiar reference. I dont remember the exact quote but something about did i know jeff clark or did i know who he was or
Something Like<\/a> that . I was wondering how does the president even know mr. Clark . Rosen confronted clark who admitted he had broken the longstanding policy governing communication between the
Justice Department<\/a> and the white house. White house lawyers
Pat Cipollone<\/a> intervened and warned clark not to communicate with the white house. Clark agreed. But just two days later escalated the situation with an email that set off a series of events that would rock the
Justice Department<\/a>. We came in on monday, december 28th, hectic day as they all were and in the afternoon got the email which i had to sit down and read more than once to make sure i understood what he was proposing. What was he proposing . He was proposing sending out a letter signed by the three of us, the acting
Attorney General<\/a>, myself and jeff clark to georgia but also the other states, the other swing states, as well, suggesting essentially that they set aside the electors assigned to support president elect biden and hold hearings and basically have the
State Legislatures<\/a> pick a new slate of electors. Did a letter claim the u. S. Department of justices investigations has quote identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states including the state of georgia unquote. Was that true . No. While the letter was sent solely by jeff clark, it was written with the help of a new
Justice Department<\/a> employee named ken who according to the committee was also working with john eastman, the architect of the multi step plan to overturn the election. The letter mirrored some of eastmans unconstitutional theories. The letter mirrored some of eastmans unconstitutional theories. Would create chaos in the states. That would be disastrous for our country and constitution. Wasnt that the point of the letter to create the cast . I think so, yes. Disturbed by the letter, donohue wrote quote, this would be a grave step for the department to take and it could have tremendous constitutional, political and social ramifications for the country. I had to make it clear to him there was no world in which i and certainly the a. G. Were going to sign a letter like that. Rosen and donohue met with clark later that evening. I do remember the very end saying to him, what you are proposing is nothing less than having the
United States<\/a>
Justice Department<\/a> meddle in the outcome of an american president ial election. But again,
Jeffrey Clark<\/a> ignored the direction of
Justice Department<\/a> leadership. He continued to claim falsely that there was wide spread
Election Fraud<\/a>. He pushed to send out the letter again and on january 3rd, he told rosen
President Trump<\/a> had offered him the role of
Attorney General<\/a> and he had accepted. That led to a series of discussions and meetings that day. At this point, it had gone so far that we had to bring the other leaders in and explain to them so they were prepared in case it happened but also to get their take on what they would do if that did happen. What did they say they would do . They uniformly said they would resign. White house call logs show by 4 19 p. M. That day, the white house had already begun referring to clark as the acting
Attorney General<\/a>. That evening, rosen and donohue went to the white house to argue against trump
Installing Clark<\/a> as
Attorney General<\/a>. The threehour meeting took place in the oval office and by all accounts, joined the long list of wild white house meetings. The president turned to me and he said well, one thing we know is you rosen, you arent going to do anything. You dont even agree with the claims of
Election Fraud<\/a> and this other guy, at least might do something. It was basically jeff clark advocating for the
Leadership Change<\/a> and everyone else advocating against it. It was a very blunt contentious conversation. Hershman and i were the
Street Fighters<\/a> of the meeting. When he finished discussing what he planned to do, i said good fing, excuse me, ahole. Congratulations you actually admitted the first step would be committing a felony. Youre clearly the right candidate for this job. White
House Counsel<\/a>
Pat Cipollone<\/a> was against the plan, as well. He referred to the letter jeff clark wrote as a
Murder Suicide Pact<\/a> that no one should have anything to do with it. I basically made the point to the president jeff clark was not qualified to be the
Attorney General<\/a>. Hes promising you hell conduct, hes very complex nationwide investigations in record time and this is coming from a guy thats never conducted a real investigation. Mr. Clark responded by saying hes been involved in very significant environmental law briefing before various courts and that reminded me that yes, in fact, youre primarily an environmental lawyer, go back to your office and call you when there is an oil spill. Donohue said upon clarks appointment,
Justice Department<\/a> leaders would resign on mass. The president turned to me and said steve, you wouldnt leave, would you . I said mr. President , ive been with you through four attorneys general including two acting attorneys general, but i couldnt be part of this. Finally, persuaded, trump decided against the idea. When clark was subpoenaed by the january 6th
Committee Earlier<\/a> this year, he refused to answer questions pleading the fifth more than 125 times. Did you discuss this draft letter to georgia officials with the president of the
United States<\/a> . Fifth. Coming up, inside the plot to pressure the
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Fraudulent Electors<\/a> in six swing states that biden won such as arizona. Donald j. Trump of the state of florida. An ultimate slate of electors from contested states are going to vote and were going to send those results up to congress. This desperate scheme to over throw the
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Law Professor<\/a> and trump attorney john eastman. The entire
Executive Branch<\/a> is headed by one guy. Trump saw him on fox news and shortly after that, he was in the oval office. Fraudulent electors was step one which he outlined and justified false claims with illegal actions by state and local election officials. Step two in his plan would have to be executed by
Vice President<\/a> mike pence on january 6th while presiding over the opening and counting of electoral ballots. What you can do is you can say due to these disputes in these seven states, were going to send this back to the states and the states would then be able to help donald trump win the election. It was a lie. In fact, on december 19th, 2020 four days before dr. Eastman sent this memo, dr. Eastman admitted fake electors had no legal weight referring to the fake electors as quote
Dead On Arrival<\/a> in congress. End quote. Trump
Campaign Aides<\/a> and outside lawyers shared their concerns about the scheme in emails reported on by the
New York Times<\/a>
Maggie Haberman<\/a> and luke broadwater. Did they think what they were doing was legal . In one email a lawyer describes them as fake electors and said what we would be doing is sending fake electors, fake in quotes to go cast ballots in another email there was a discussion about fear from some officials. This would be seen as quote unquote treason. What might have happened had pence tried to go through with this idea that he could reject electoral votes and send them back to the states biden won such as arizona, pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia . He would have immediately plunged the country into what i characterized would be a revolution within a paralyzing constitutional crisis. There is just no way that the framers of the constitution who divided power and authority, who separated it out, who had broken away from george iii and declared him to be a tyrant, there was no way they would have put in the hands of one person the authority to determine who is going to be president of the
United States<\/a>. But
President Trump<\/a> now saw
Vice President<\/a> pence as the man who could keep him in the white house for four more years. On
December 23rd<\/a>,
President Trump<\/a> retweeted a memo from an individual named
Ivan Entitled Operate Pence<\/a> card. That called on the
Vice President<\/a> to refuse the
Electoral College<\/a> votes to declare the winner. So now hes going public. Hes trying to get public pressure on mike pence. The january 6th committees interviews with white
House Attorneys<\/a> made it clear
Pat Cipollone<\/a> and many others were appalled. What was communicated to me was that
Pat Cipollone<\/a> thought the idea was not nutty and had at one point confronted eastman basically with the same sentiment. What were your prior interactions with eastman . He described the ambiguity in the statute and was walking through it at that time. And i said hold on a second, i want to understand what youre saying. Youre saying you believe the
Vice President<\/a> acting as president of the senate can be the sole
Decision Maker<\/a> as to under your theory, who becomes the next president of the
United States<\/a> . And he said yes. I said are you out of your fing mind . The
Vice President<\/a> decided he could not buy into eastmans theories. Was it your impression that the
Vice President<\/a> had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president . Many times. And had been consistent in conveying his position to the president . Very consistent. You basically cannot over state the pressure that trump was putting on pence in the leadup to january 6th. I hope that our great
Vice President<\/a> , our great
Vice President<\/a> comes through for us. Hes a great guy. Of course, if he doesnt come through, i wont like him quite as much. That night, pences outside lawyer
Richard Cohen<\/a> phoned retired judge michael a republican for help and advice. He said judge, do you know john eastman . I said yes. John was a clerk of mine about 20, 25 years ago and he said, well, john is advising the president and
Vice President<\/a> that the
Vice President<\/a> does not have to accept the
Electoral College<\/a> votes as they have been cast. I said well, richard, you can tell the
Vice President<\/a> that i said he has no such authority whatsoever. Why did you take to twitter . The next morning, richard calls and he said look, we have to get your voice out to the country immediately within the next hour. Judge ludwig with the help of his son sent his first ever twitter thread. My son sent me twitter instructions on how to tweet a thread of individual tweets that were under 140 characters i have no earthly idea what any of this was about. I told my son send it to me now or ill cut ya out of the will. He read me some of that thread. The only responsibility and power of the
Vice President<\/a> under the constitution is to faithfully count the
Electoral College<\/a> votes as they have been cast. The constitution does not empower the
Vice President<\/a> to alter in any way the votes that have been cast either by rejecting certain of them or otherwise. That twitter thread spread and garnered attention around the world. But with just one day before congress was set to certify bidens
Electoral College<\/a> victory, trump continued to apply maximum pressure. In this tweet, quote, the
Vice President<\/a> has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors and when they met at the white house on january 5th. In the book par al if these people say you have the power, wouldnt you want to . The
Vice President<\/a> says quote i wouldnt want any one person to have that authority. The president says, no, no, no, you dont understand, mike, you can do this. I dont want to be your friend anymore if you dont do this. Trump would not relent. At 1 00 a. M. On january 6th. He said if
Vice President<\/a> mike pence comes through we will win the presidency. Mike can send it back. And then there was the
Morning Phone Call<\/a> in which the president bullied and belittled the
Vice President<\/a> for refusing to go along with his potential coup. I dont remember if he said you are a wimp, wimp is the word i remember. Its also been reported that the president said to the
Vice President<\/a> that something to the effect of you dont have the courage to make a hard decision. Worse. I dont remember exactly but
Something Like<\/a> that. Yeah. Soon after the call ended, trump would repeat his dangerous lies and put a target on
Vice President<\/a> pence. I hope mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. And mike pence is going to have to come through for us. As that speech neared the end, inside the capitol. The senate and
House Of Representatives<\/a> are meeting in joint session to verify the certificates and count the votes of the electors. But outside, headed their way. I got
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Capitol Police<\/a> issued a special event assessment. Congress itself is the target on the 6th. Now were on as i say the point of attack. Listen to what mr. Bannon said that day after the first call he had with the president. All hell is going to break loose tomorrow. All i can say is strap in. They thought they could steal this election. Then he and donald trump talk again. We dont know what the contents of those calls were because of course, donald trump has not provided that information and steve bannon has not provided that information. Fight for america the night of january 5th, you were among those summoned to the oval office. Yeah, i was brought into the oval office that evening and the entire press team was assembled in there. The gates opened a few minutes ago. The president had the door to the rose garden open and you could hear the crowd on the ellipse assembled and tell he was feeding off that energy and he was really excited for the next day. The president was making notes talking then about we should go up to the capitol, whats the best route to go to the capitol . The january 6th committees presentation and documentation left no doubt trump had every intention of joining his supporters march to the capitol. Did the president tell you this, he wanted to speak at the capitol. Correct, yes. Stop the steal stop the steal we have the power in numbers. We came here to protect our republic. Fight for trump the morning of january 6th. Usa you will listen to us usa supporters began gathering for the rally. Biden did not win this election. What do you think happened . Fraud. It not made up. Meanwhile, the president s insistence on joining their march to the capitol. Were taking this country back. Had white house lawyers such as
Pat Cipollone<\/a> very worried. Mr. Cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we dont go up to the capitol cassidy. Keep in touch with me. Well get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that move happen. But nobody could change trumps mind and as, family and aides arrived at the rally, his
Chief Of Staff<\/a> mark meadows was keeping the president s hopes alive. Prior to mr. Trump taking the stage that morning, he was under the impression it was still possible. At the rally the president had a more immediate familiar concern, crowd size. When we were in the
Off Stage Area Tent<\/a> behind the stage, he was very concerned about the shot. Usa usa for the pictures that were shared, he wanted to make sure that the rally space was full. So hes being told its not that people are waiting to get through these mags, through these metal detectors, people dont want to go through them because they have weapons with them. During the hearings, the select committee showed a secret
Service Report<\/a> that quote, some members of the crowd are wearing ballistic helmets, body armor and carrying
Radio Equipment<\/a> and military grade backpacks. Lets listen. The
Committee Also<\/a> played
Police Radio Transmissions<\/a> from that day. An individual was entering. Hes got blue jeans, a blue jean jacket and underneath the blue jean jackets, he has an ar15 with a group of individuals, about five to eight other individuals, two of the individuals in that group, they had glock style pistols in their waistband. Three men walking down the street carrying ar15s. Yet, trump wanted the medal detectors removed. We were in the off stage tent, i was in the vicinity of a conversation i over heard the president say i dont care they have weapons. Theyre not here to hurt me. Take the fing mags away. Let the people in. Take the fing mags away. The 45th president of the
United States<\/a> of america. [ cheers ] donald j. Trump. [ cheers ] lets reflect on that for a moment. President trump was aware that a number of the individuals in the crowd had weapons and were wearing body armor and here is what
President Trump<\/a> instructed the crowd to do. Were going to walk down and ill be there with you, were going to walk down anyone you want, but i think right here, were going to walk down to the capitol [ cheers ] to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Usa usa how would you characterize
Donald Trumps<\/a> speech . Inciting. He said peacefully and patriotically but telling people to go up there and its hard to see that was fomenting in telling people he had been harmed and they should be angry on his behalf. Youll never take back the country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. Trumps
National Security<\/a> advisors believe the president was going to join the procession. Mogul, the president , was quote going to the capitol and quote theyre finding the best route now. The chat log continues. Military aid has confirmed he wants to walk. They are begging him to reconsider. Current route will be 15th to f, f to 6th, 6th to penn, penn to the capitol. So this is happening. There is millions of us here. What was he going to do up there . I think just lead his people. Lead his base. Be with his base. I dont think this was something that he had thought out too well other than he was acting like somebody who didnt think he had anything to lose. After more than an hour on stage, the president wrapped up his speech this way. We fight like hell and if you dont fight like hell youre not going to have a country anymore so lets walk down pennsylvania avenue. I want to thank youall. God bless you and god bless america. When he got off the stage. Lets go and everybody was making the movement back to the motorcade, i had over heard mr. Meadows say to him that he was still working on getting an off the record movement to the capitol. What happened next as trump and secret
Service Agent<\/a>
Robert Bobby Ingle<\/a> got into the president ial limousine known as the beast was relaid to hutchinson by
Trumps Deputy<\/a>
Chief Of Staff<\/a> tony. When i returned to the white house, tony proceeded to tell me that once the president had gotten into the vehicle with bobby, he thought that they were going up to the cap to and when bobby relaid to him were not, we dont have the assets to do it, its not secure, were going back to the west wing. The president had very strong, very angry response to that. Tony described him as being irate. The president said something to the effect of im the fing president , take me up to the capitol now. To which bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the west wing. The president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Ingle grabbed his arm said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. Were going back to the west wing. Were not going to the capitol. So shocking story. Weve now heard from at least the washington d. C. Detective something very similar. Trump would return to the white house. And watch his supporters heed his call to fight like hell. What the [ bleep ] . Lets go. A ever wonder what everyones doing on their phones . Theyre investing with merrill. Think miss allen is texting for backup . No shes totally in charge. Of her portfolio and daniel g. Shes building a greener future and hes. Running a pretend restaurant. And phil . Phil has questions, but none of them are about his portfolio. Digital tools so impressive, your money never stops working for you with merrill, a
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Donald Trumps<\/a> former
Deputy White House<\/a> press secretary and was in the white house on january 6th. It was kind of quiet to be honest in the west wing that morning at least. That quiet would not last long. After the speeches at the ellipse, the president returned to the white house and the rioters made their way to the capitol. They broke through. Its on. Already aware of the increasing violence, trump went into the private dining room just off the oval office at 1 25 p. M. And remained there until 4 00 p. M. When donald trump is upset what hes seeing, he reacts. He was not reacting here. For more than three hours, the president of the
United States<\/a> refused to call off the violent rioters who stormed the u. S. Capitol. He was watching television and admiring what he saw. You know, was happy the certification was delayed. There was efforts to try to get him to issue a statement. These didnt work. He didnt make a single phone call to any member of his government. At 1 49 p. M. Declaring it a riot. When d. C. Police officially declared this a riot, trump tweeted out a link to his speech on the ellipse, the very one that helped insight the riot realizing the severity of the situation, white
House Counsel<\/a>
Pat Cipollone<\/a> rushed to mark meadows, the president s
Chief Of Staff<\/a>. I remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters have gotten to the capitol mark. We need to go see the president now. Mark looked up and said he doesnt want to do anything, pat. Its over you better run, cops. Right as the violence surged, trump tweeted mike pence didnt have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and constitution. It was the last thing that was really needed in that moment. I pretty much painted a target on the
Vice President<\/a> s back by tweeting that out. I remember pat saying
Something Like<\/a> mark we need to do something more. Theyre literally calling for the
Vice President<\/a> to be fing hung and mark responded something to the effect of you heard him, pat, he thinks mike deserves it. Working in communications for
President Trump<\/a>, i was very aware of just the impact that his words have on his supporters. That tweet suggested to them that what they were doing at the inside the capitol, the
Vice President<\/a> was rushed from the senate floor. Secret service held pence along with his family and aides in his
Senate Office<\/a> as they worked to clear a path to safety. If we lose any more time, we may have may lose the ability to leave. A white house anonymous person explained how dire the situation was for pence and
Secret Service<\/a> detail. Members of the detail at this time were starting to fear for their lives. We were running out of options and getting nervous. It sounds like we came close to either service having to use lethal options or worse. When the
Secret Service<\/a> made the call to move the
Vice President<\/a> again, rioters came within 40 feet of him. As he was held in an undisclosed location,
President Trump<\/a> addressed the rioters. It was pence who was on the phone with these lawmakers, pence was on the phone with people in the pentagon about what was happening with the national guard. At 2 38 p. M. Trump tweeted support our law enforcement. Theyre truly on the side of our country. Stay peaceful. By this point, rioters were in both chambers. This is our house. And the
Capitol Rotunda<\/a> was filled with tear gas. At the end of the tweet he used the phrase stay peaceful. Kayleigh mcenany said he didnt want to tweet that and it took a lot of convincing on their part. That was extremely alarming to me. The rioters were getting trumps message in realtime. As heard on walkietalkie communications between rioters. Trump just tweeted please support our
Capitol Police<\/a>. They are on our side. Do not harm them. You didnt say not to do anything to the congressman. [ laughter ] i think what the committee showed about trumps tweets is that they do take them literally. His messages were received by the people who were there at the capitol. Very loudly. At any moment during the siege on the capitol, the president could have addressed the country live from the white house. There is a camera on in the
White House Briefing<\/a> room at all times. He could have walked over there, could have been on camera almost instantaneously and blasted out a message to the
American People<\/a>. He had every opportunity and he chose to not do that. When the president finally relented and released a video telling the rioters to go home, it was 4 17 p. M. Three hours and seven minutes since the riot began. It became very clear that the feds basically had taken the capitol back over. They were not going to succeed in stopping the counting and only then did he come out with that statement. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election. And everyone knows it. Seeing him on camera start the video by talking about a stolen election, i immediately knew that he wasnt going to meet the moment and say what was needed in that time. So go home. We love you. Youre very special. Yet again, many rioters took the president s words as instructions. Im here delivering the president s message. Working in communications for him, i knew that i would be tasked with defending that and we had just witnessed all this violence at the capitol and these folks attacking police officers. Chanting horrible things and i knew i couldnt defend that because it was indefensible. I resigned that evening. The riot with blood and broken glass littered the halls of congress, according to january 6th committee, there were those still trying to overturn the election. That evening
Rudy Giuliani<\/a> called a number of republican senators and urged them to continue to try and delay the certification. Im calling you because i want to discuss with you how theyre trying to rush this hearing. The next day john eastman called
Eric Hershman<\/a> to discuss an appeal in georgia. I said to him are you out of your fing mind . Ill give you your best free legal advice youll get in your life. Get a great fing criminal defense lawyer. Youre going to need it and i hung up on him. And the president released a second video condemning the violence more forcefully on january 7th. Like all americans, i am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. According to white house aid cassidy hutchinson, it was his threat of the country invoking the amendment that convinced him to make the video. Advisors warned trump that talk of removing him from office was gaining traction. Think about what might happen in the final 15 days of your presidency if we dont do this . There is talks about invoking the 25th amendment. You need this as cover. Even then, he still refused to admit the election was over. This election is now over. Congress has certified the results. I dont want to say the election is over. I just want to say congress has certified the results without saying the election is over, okay . That video showed you that even after every single constitutional process had been completed and after over 60 courts had heard his challenges and rejected them, he still refused. He was fundamentally a rejection of the rule of law and again, america cant sustain itself if we have a
Commander In Chief<\/a> who is at war with the rule of law. Coming up. I want the
American People<\/a> to look at these hearings and understand how close we came that day to losing that selfgovernance. This is our capitol the battle to prevent another january 6th. I remember when i first started flying, and we would experience turbulence. I would watch the
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Election Loss<\/a> anthony gonzalez, thats another beauty. Donald trump made it his mission to root out everyone in the
Republican Party<\/a> who opposed him. Of the
House Of Representatives<\/a> republicans who voted to impeach him, only two remain. The others have declined to run for reelection. I will do whatever it takes. This has cost you your job. Do you have any regrets . Our obligation very much is above politics. I cant imagine having done everything differently at any stage of this process since january 6th. It saddens me that so many of my republican colleagues have not met the moment. Kinzinger and cheney are the only two republicans on the
House Committee<\/a> to investigate the attack on january 6th. They have become pariahs in a party where they were once seen as its future. We cannot survive as a party existing on the personality of one man. The select committee to investigate the
January 6th Attack<\/a> had the
Herculean Task<\/a> set before it. Its members and staff have conducted more than 1,000 interviews,
Filmed Hundreds<\/a> of taped depositions and collected more than 140,000 documents. While
Congress Cannot<\/a> bring charges agains t while
Congress Cannot<\/a> bring charges against the president , they can issue a criminal for old criminal referral. It was involved in efforts that were not only unconstitutional against the law. Have indicated they believe donald trump potentially committed obstruction of congress into defraud the
United States<\/a> amongst other potential crimes. A
Conspiracy Charge<\/a> may be difficult to prove. You have to have criminal intent. Care, you have the problem of proving what was in the president s mind. I have heard people say well, he was willfully blind. Should he have known . Yes. If you did not, i dont know if that is a crime. Not everyone shares that view. It is a fact or law by the president of the
United States<\/a> and it would not be of
Legal Defense<\/a> or a political defense to the president. That is about as clear as our former judge could say its. Ultimately, the department of justice will decide whether to bring any charges, and whom will be charged. Earlier this month, the
Justice Department<\/a> issued another sweeping set of subpoenas to more than 30 people in the former president s orbit. There are multiple federal grand jurys handling the investigation. We know the
Justice Department<\/a> has been investigating
Jeffrey Clark<\/a>. We also know john eastman is someone that has been touched by this investigation. I would like to see the warrant before you take my property. Jeffrey clark and john eastman have had their phones seized by federal investigators. Clark dismissed the investigation as politically motivated and eastman fought the
Doj Search Warrant<\/a> in court. There are statelevel investigations as well. Rudy giuliani has been informed he is a target in a georgia investigation. He appeared before a grand jury in august. At the moment, perhaps the most perilous investigation for donald trump has nothing to do with the attack on the capital. Former
President Trump<\/a>s home in florida has been searched by the fbi. The investigation that at the moment seems most directly threatening to donald trump is the one into his handling of classified documents and taking documents with him when he left office. The government has recovered more than 320 classified documents from his home in florida. The redacted search warrant identified three federal crimes that the department of justice lists as the foundation of the investigation. Obstruction of justice, criminal handling of records in violation of the espionage act. The committee was scheduled to complete the hearings but its members say there is much more to share. We will be focusing on presenting additional evidence. You will see additional witness testimony. You will see an additional focus on the former president intent at each step of the way. How much these hearings have impacted the countrys view of trump remains unclear. I think the january 6th hearings presented a pretty concise case. I do think it got through to voters and i think it was probably because it was trumps own republican appointees who were the ones they used to testify against him. Whether that lingers in voters minds is a really open question. I dont think they have wounded him in a sense they have changed a lot of minds. His supporters either dont care or still believe what he says which is that the election was stolen and biden is not legitimately unelected president. Of the 10 republicans who voted to impeach donald trump based on the
January 6th Attack<\/a> on the capitol, 8 are either retiring or have been defeated in primaries. What does that say to you . That donald trump and his supporters are a
Clear And Present Danger<\/a> to american democracy. Uvalde moving mountains and putting things in motion to be able to oppose a future election result that doesnt go his way, whether it is promoting conspiracy theorist and advocating and campaigning for them as secretaries of state are backing governors of key swing states who are going to support his election lies. He is putting all of these things in motion. We should be watching it and knowing it is for future plans he has. A lot of the people we have interviewed have expressed concerns not just about what happened, but will happen. Effect, we see a bunch of election liars running for office. Are you worried . I am very worried. The responsibility we all have to make sure we defend our republic and our institutions have to be above politics. There are people that are running so they are in a position so that they can certify results only for donald trump. That is fundamentally a threat to the survival of a republican i think those people have all got to be defeated. You have been shouting from the rooftops. This is not just about 2020. You are worried about 2024. You are worried about future elections. I am. Right now, the former president has allies and supporters including in congress and in the states and they represent
Clear And Present Danger<\/a> to american democracy. That is not because of what they did on january 6th. It is because of what they pledged to do in 2024. Do you think republicans are hearing what youre saying . I hope they are. There is no evidence they have heard anything to date. Our democracy and the
United States<\/a> relies upon good people in positions of power to do the lawful and right thing. From the president , all the way down to local officials. We are having these discussions, because there were enough republicans who did the right thing in 2020. Perhaps next time there will not be. Many of the republicans on the ballots for the 2022 midterm elections are supporters of trumps election lies. They have set out right they reject the results of the last president ial election. Immediately following the violence here on january 6th at the capitol, twothirds of the
House Republican<\/a> conference voted to not count electoral votes from pennsylvania, based on those same lies. January 6th has taught us anything but it is that nothing is guaranteed. This is the american experiment, not the american proven theorem. For our republic to survive, we need elected officials loyal not to one man, but to the
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