reconciliation package. a democratic colleague said infrastructure is the dessert. the $3.5 trillion spend a lot of money and tax a lot of money is spinach. i've eaten my dessert and now i'm supposed to eat my spinach? i don't think so. the other thing, the problem solvers caucus, a coalition of 28 republicans and 28 democrats, headed by gottheimer and fitzpatrick have come out in favor of this. she doesn't need a radical left wing. she can pass the infrastructure package with that committed group of american congressmen and women who want to see our country get better to have the 110 billion for the roads and bridges and highways, et cetera, and the new jobs, they can pass the infrastructure package without having the radical left, and that i think opens a pathway. >> before i let you go, i want to ask about the judiciary chairman dick durbin, coming on