evacuation has gone on. he said even if you completely disagree with biden's decision to withdraw, the way they handled this has been an f-ing disaster. i know you disagree saying no matter how the u.s. withdrew, it was going to be chaotic. but do you really think there is no way this could have been planned better in terms of vac waiting american citizens or a gahn special visa applicants? no way at all? >> listen, of course, there is no way you run a massive evacuation process like this and not have things you would have done better in retrospect. but i understand the representation to be, from moulton and others, that we should have begun the evacuation earlier and that would have solved for some of the chaos we're seeing today. i think there are a couple problems with that. the first is, we were under the belief in the spring and summer of this year, that the afghan military would stand up and fight. and the military and the government was telling us that if you start the mass evacuation