fascinating because you think that the show is being set up as a cat and mouse game. vic mackey is making lots of money and you're introduced to terry, this undercover cop, who was sent to bring him down. you think, oh, that's the show. i've seen that show before. i've seen that movie before. >> we're talking about making the case that puts mack behind bars for a long time. >> then we get to the pilot and vick shoots terry in the face. >> there was some thought that hbo shows did well because they had no commercials. so when a basic cable show like "the shield" that did have commercials found an audience, all of a sudden it just opened the door, and other original programming sprung up like "nip/tuck." >> when you stop striving for perfection, you might as well be dead. >> and "rescue me." >> you son of a bitch. >> and it was a whole new playing field. >> tommy!