able to hop off to belarus and the kremlin dropping charges against him? i'm not saying steve was offering a simple explanation, but they figured out a way for all of them to get out of the jam, and that has to be the way it is for the time being. >> yes, i think that there was -- they had found themselves almost looking with brinkmanship at each other. prigozhin and wagner probably bit off far more than they could chew. but they had the opiate of all these people and public along the way, cheering them on, down the m-4, which is a very good highway going through cities and towns. yeah, i think's that that. i think they had to come out. i think just to realize they had