was actually at a work function, and she ended up being the keynote speaker for the event. and i gave her my card. >> i called her, and it's like, i feel like i'm being stalked. you're calling everybody that i know asking questions. she said, i'm sorry, i get curious, and she would go ask another person. i finally got used to that. it's like, i understand her intentions are to find jacob. and she's got the benefit of not being law enforcement, so people will talk to her differently, and she keeps uncovering things. >> i spent a lot of time at the library and online, going through old newspaper articles. and i figured out early on that i really wanted to talk to this guy named jared. jared was a kid who had been abducted nine months before jacob. and that happened in cold