what do you know? >> i think that is absolutely true. these families have been through this repeatedly and it has been a roller-coaster ride for them. they don't want it to happen again, quite frankly. what they want is some type of proof, some type of convincing evidence, conclusive evidence that tells them the plane is in the water. until they get that a lot of people tell us they are not going to talk. still couple of people you talk to from time to time that hold out hope that this could turn out better than most people think you might. nonetheless, families we have spoken with say they're waiting and hoping for some type of evidence so they can get closure on this episode at the very least. >> can you talk to us about the plans? do they intend to travel to australia as the search continues to hone in on the