waiting times there. >> these are men and women who made sacrifices for our freedom and to think that we can't worm in a place where we feel that some of our freedoms are taken away, our freedom of speech, our freedom of expression, the fear and the retaliation is horrific. >> clarno claims that other whistle blowers want to come forward but they are afraid to. there are claims being investigated that the v.a. retaliated against 37 whistle blowers. the acting secretary who took after eric shinseki resigned last week said he will not stand for whistle blowers being intimidated. >> that is absolutely unacceptable. i will not tolerate it in the organization and no matter where they happen to be in the leadership command, i will hold them accountable for that. >> gibson also confirmed that 18