>> doug, what do you think the practical effect is when those who make historical films get some details wrong for the sake of drama? what's the big deal? >> well, really, all the movies do that. there's inaccuracies and compression in any movie claiming to be about history. but someone like in the film "saving private ryan" and others this movie could have used somebody looking at the script a little bit more. i love "selma." i think it's a brilliant film. and the atmospherics are great. but when you boil down to that king/johnson part of the film, it's a distortion and not a helpful one. >> what is the truth as opposed to what the film captures douglas? >> the truth is on the johnson tapes where lyndon johnson is talking to martin luther king. we can hear it and you can play it on your show. and he's urging king to do a selma, that we need it and even saying that civil rights act is