again clinton followed appropriate practices in dealing with classified materials, jake. >> all right. complicated and confusing. >> very. joining mess to talk about this and other political news are dan pfeiffer and s.e. kazuo matsui. thank you both for this encore performance. [ laughter ] >> s.e. do voters care about this? they all are united by the fact that hillary clinton seems to have put herself ahead of national security. i don't have to tell dan, the obama administration was concerned about having her work at the state department and cgi, people like blumenthal involved in state business. it looks like she kind of just