conspiracy theory that all of these women are somehow lying, that tish james' office has an ax to grind. and you saw little threads there throughout of this big conspiracy theory, everybody's against governor cuomo. i thought it fell really flat, and i don't think it's going to work. >> elie, why would the new york attorney general withhold the full transcripts of the interviews in this investigation? why aren't we seeing more, and what is your view of the overall defense? >> yeah, pam. so the first takeaway is governor cuomo is not going without a fight here. there was some speculation will he be resigning, is this going to be dragged out? he is going to fight this tooth and nail all the way till the end. the first argument is a process argument. i don't think we should be dismissive of their process arguments. governor cuomo's attorneys, this is a one-sided fight so far. the investigators, and i know joon kim, he's an excellent lawyer, but they have not turned over really if many materials.