support of the senate, then where are we? >> so now the big question is, what happens with that thursday vote because right now progressives saying they have the numbers to scuttle that because they want to use that as leverage to force that larger plan through, to get moderates like joe manchin to agree to an approach to move forward. manchin said it's going to take weeks for him to get behind anything and there need to be much more talks. he and kyrsten sinema have been at the center of these talks for some time. at the moment nancy pelosi and chuk schumer are at the white house trying to figure out their way ahead. will they move ahead tomorrow? will they be punt? the votes don't appear to be there on the infrastructure bill as of yet. >> manu raju, thank you. let's discuss. kasie, what is the end game here for senator sinema? this is familiar territory for joe manchin who represents a very red state. but arizona is purplish/red and