meadows. we did not work together at all. so i think it's easy for her to judge, but i think she said that before reading the book, so i would encourage her to read the book and get context and nuance there. >> possibly one of the other things alyssa -- and i'm extrapolating, but possibly one of the other things she's talking about when she refers to you as an originalist. there were people that worked in the white house for trump who were people who considered it their patriotic duty to try to have trump succeed, even though he might not have been their first choice. like, let's say white house chief of staff john kelly or h.r. mcmaster, people who wanted the trains to run on time, who wanted to be balanced in the ship. before trump took office, when you were working on the campaign, you knew that he had bragged about committing sexual assault on the "access hollywood" tape or called to ban all muslims from entering the u.s. which is bigotry and unconstitutional. said a judge couldn't be fair because of his mexican heritage,