this show of affection. >> what was your impression of murdoch when you met? >> he kind of mumbles, so he was hard to understand. we were in this boardroom with the largest table i've ever seen and i felt like i had to practically dive across the table to hear what he was saying. i think he is an incredible businessman, but i felt that he wouldn't respect the integrity of the paper. >> it takes the bancrofts 18 days to come back with their counter offer. they want two board seats on dow jones' board in perpetuity. rupert is completely offended by this, that they need these kinds of guarantees to deign to sell to him, so he sees it as a real insult.