dictating the terms, wolf, not negotiating. >> good point as well. so what happens if there is no political solution at this upcoming meeting? >> well, i think both sides want to check the diplomatic box, if you will. president putin certainly isn't going to roll into ukraine any time in the next 24 hours. i think he wants to see what happens after these talks. and the u.s. has already said it's readying these sanctions, getting them ready. i think some of the targets that they're looking at, possibly these leaders of these known institutions, this is what the u.s. feels is really going to put the pressure on president putin. if these cronies are the ones that are siding with him and their pocketbook is affected, they're hoping that that would put the pressure on him. >> do you see any indication, elise, that the u.s., the obama administration is getting ready to provide military equipment to the ukrainians? >> i think they're very reluctant to do that, wolf, for a couple of reasons. first of all, what are they