>> now that it's all right to discuss sex, people are now talking about it a great deal, and i don't think that's so bad. >> yes, arthur? >> i think that talking about sex wastes such a lot of time. >> helen gurley brown pointed out that the guys had one standard, the women had another. and that was a revelation. rules that had existed for a thousand years just overnight they were gone. >> in a recent survey, 44% of the high school and college girls questioned said they approve of sexual intercourse before marriage if they're serious about the young man. do either of you approve for yourselves of intercourse before marriage? >> yes, i do. >> yes, i would say. >> sexual revolution or sexual renaissance? the experts are still trying to define it.