take the precautions, and antidepressants, that's the real danger. >> tens of thousands of people juze ayahuasca worldwide today, and the ranked of the newly converted now appears to include stan, who'd just done a day time dose of ron's mighty brew. >> just out here in the jungle, wrestling with my demons. [ laughter ] >> it's probably about as good a place as any to wrestle with them. and a good place to leave them. >> want a little smoke blown on you? >> sure. >> a journey of change. a modern pilgrimage.