and as young men, gary and larry developed an unusual new hobby as civil war re-enactors. >> met a lot of new friends during that time period and i was able to travel around and meet them at the battlefields either on tours and stuff. it was a lot of fun. >> larry was hooked. even growing mutton chops from his hairline to his jowl. though the re-enactments helped larry make friends, he still struggled with women. what was larry like around young women growing up? >> very awkward. quiet. backward. >> did he ever talk to you about these urges he reportedly says he had urges about women? >> oh my gosh, it was absolutely -- it was out of bounds. i had no idea. >> jimmy keene grew up 135 miles