he ascend and the oxygen was so low he passed out but his body was cooling at the same time, his metabolism was dropping, his need for oxygen was dropping and we do this in medicine quite often, but the problem i have with that is that when he got off the plane he wasn't still extremely hypothermic. it doesn't quite all match. >> yeah. for all we know he was somewhere else in the aircraft. i don't think this has been proven yet. authorities don't seem to be, you know, at least publicly doubting the elements of the story and he was in san jose, he did end up in hawaii. are you talking about some sort of like hibernation state a body goes into? >> well, certainly that can happen, and mammals hibernate. most hibernate with normal body temperatures. there's some ground squirrels in the arctic who get their body temperatures just below freezing.