he doesn't have any real ideas and the ideas he has now weren't the real ideas that he had even five years ago. this is a guy that doesn't know where he stands, doesn't nope what he believes in. he can't win in a general election. >> but then answer -- >> he's not going to win the primary. it is august before this whole election. >> connie, i've got to ask you this. many people -- most people would not even be discussing jeb bush if donald trump, quite honestly, was not attacking him. so my question, again, is why is he focused on jeb bush? >> because he knows that jeb bush is a threat. he knows that jeb bush has the brain and has the ideas that people are going to be attracted to. and the only way a bully can win in those fights is to try to keep you down. >> okay. >> and so he wants to -- >> so he's not -- >> he's not exclusively focused on -- >> you know, i really got into