rolling back all those obama-era rules. so part of it's ego, and also let's just be honest. one has to be honest here. it's also about doing the bidding of big oil. and that's not just conjecture. that's not just a cheap shot. that's not just an opinion. look at what marathon petroleum and others have been doing, working very, very deliberatively to get these obama-era rules overturned. >> you may have just answered part of it. it may be redundant, but i'll ask you this. the gop has always stood -- at least they say they stood for states rights, right? yet this is a republican administration exerting its authority over your state. why do you think this is happening? >> federalism be damned, state rights, tenth amendment be damned. ronald reagan, richard nixon be damned. the origins of this are ronald reagan, 1967, when he wanted to claern up the air down in los angeles, the smog. it led to the clean air act in 1970. richard nixon, bipartisan,