there are -- they have decades of public service between them. and george kent is a senior state department official who was so disturbed by what he learned about president trump's pressure campaign that he put out a memo calling it injurious to the rule of law. bill taylor is a top diplomat in ukrain who was called out of retirement by the secretary of state mike pompeo to take over after marie yovanovitch, even though she had done nothing wrong. so imagine what the president thinks about that. his hand picked -- think about this. this is his hand-picked secretary of state calls taylor out of retirement and he ends up being the first witness in the impeachment inquiry against him.