for his films. he's a leader for a cause. that's where our conversation continues. >> i try to get behind things i think i can have, at least i can help bring attention to it. i can't change things. we're not a government, my wife and i. we try to get involved in things we think we can bring -- you know, it's rolling that ball uphill towards that ark of justice, you know, and we fail. i fail most often. you failed a lot. failed a lot quite honestly but it's worth the journey and worth, you know, trying to -- you look at the world and you go look, we're all going to have -- we're all in this together now and we have to figure outwe way to stand up for justice, which has to be waged. my wife and i talk about it all the time. it doesn't just happen. it has to be treated like war. you go to war and arm yourself and collect allies, you build an army.