type of mechanical or catastrophic event in the cockpit that forced that aircraft off course, to change heading, to apparently want to go to the nearest land at the nearest suitable airport. but there was no distress call. the acars was off. the transponders were off. that still leads me to believe that was human intervention. again, because the waypoints, the points, the flight path for that aircraft was put in and agreed to on the ground and in the flight management system. that was human intervention. >> and the suspicion has been, as you know, peter, in this no man's land before they enter vietnamese air traffic controllers after they leave malaysian air traffic controllers, if you're going to do something, that might be the time to do it. >> sure. sloppiness at the ho chi minh center. although ho chi minh did radio another malaysian plane 10 or 12 minutes after the last transmission and say, hey, have you heard from malaysian 370. and said, well, i reached them, but there was a little garble, i