>> when he flagged the officer down the or, or just out of nowhere? >> he just came out of nowhere and started to fire on him, and he came out of nowhere and really, and literally traversing towards that patrol car. i don't even know when hartnett first noticed him. but we know that, you can see him from across the street, and he had already started firing, and so it was no attempt or call to that regard, but he started to fire with one aim, and one aim only, to kill him. >> where was the car? >> the car was moving. >> and can you tell us if there was anybody else out there with officer hartnett? >> well, i didn't see anybody else in the individuvideo, and else can correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't recall seeing that. >> and can you -- >> that is mou the philly pd operates. some of them with a myriad of