Politicians who only stoke the anger when they should be finding answers to a very real crisis. Youre just lucky. None of you are better instead, this is what theyre countering. They blocked the bus of a few dozen kids to a ranch for troubled youth until hearings on whether they can stay in the country. The reason why lady justice was well, in the crowd making a speech, this guy republican state legislator and congressional candidate adam kwasman. When he saw a bus, he tweeted this is not compassion, it is abrogation of the rule. He tweeted this out, ran to confront the bus, later telling a local reporter about the encounter. I was able to actually see some of the children in the buses. And the fear on their faces, this is not compassion. Its unclear whose compassion he is talking about there, and whether what that has to do with the fear on the faces of children as their bus encounters an angry mob of screaming grownups. The kids might just as well have been puzzled and not scared because well, watch. Which children on the buses were those . I saw a school bus with plenty of children on it. Im assuming that that was the bus that was moving through. He assumed it was the bus. But it wasnt the bus. Do you me that was a bus with ymca kids . They were sad too. Okay. I apologize. I didnt know. I was leaving i was leaving when i saw them. So if that was a school bus, people are not happy down the line. That is an error by me. Should you be making those kinds of assumptions on such a charged issue and talk about seeing the kids when those werent the kids. I said i saw children. But those were not migrant children. Those werent migrant children. Thats fine. Listen, when you see i was a mistake that was a mistake. That was not correct, then thats a mistake. Kids from the ymca. It certainly was. But he is right. People are upset. You hear people talk about trojan horses, contagious diseases, even sinister white house plots to turn red states blue or turn the count socialist. Keep them honest. Plenty of that hyped up language is coming straight from the mouths of not everyday people but elected representatives. World English Dictionary defines invasion among the definitions is invading with armed forces. But its any encroachment or intrusion, the onset or advent of something harmful, as in a disease. There is the d word again, disease. Lets just take a second to insert some fax here. The disease word is getting tossed around now all the time. Keeping them honest. According to unicef, the vaccination rate for kids in honduras ranges from 88 to 94 for common childhood illnesses. According to the cdc, the rate for American Kids is actually slightly worse. Now when its not disease the people are accusing these kids of, its crime. Here is republican florida u. S. Congressman richard nugent. You know, where do they get the child . And a lot of these children, and the first caller mentioned it, theyre gang members. Theyre gang affiliated. These kids have been brought up in a culture of, you know, of thievery, a culture of murder, of rape, all those types of things. And were going to now infuse them into the american culture. Its just ludicrous. So, again, keeping them honest. While Gang Violence is a very real problem in central america, and no doubt gang members cross illegally into the United States, there is plenty of evidence that the kids we are actually talking about here are kids fleeing violence there is no good evidence they have come here to spread violence there are other theorys from politicians. Republican congressman steve king and Steve Stockman told world net daily this is all a deliberate move by the Obama Administration which is derived they say by a strategy by radical sociologists to transform america into a socialist state. Congressman king referring to the sociologist claimed kloward and piven. I do feel this attempt to flood the border with illegals is the ais a playing out of the clowarpiven theory. To make it into a blue state. Thats the open secret, according to him. After clowardpiven, that sounds downright simple. The time for action, for actually passing legislation to address this problem is ticking away. There is just 11 days until congress breaks for the summer. Dana bash is there along with republican strategist anna navarro, former huntsman 2012 chair and dan restrepo. Dana, lets start with you. Youre on capitol hill. Every day you talk to the members of congress. Do you get a sense this kind of amped up rhetoric is actually increasing . Well, certainly with the members that you put up there, which is unfortunately not that unusual. But i actually had a chance to talk to one of the members, republican richard nugent. And you well know this, anderson. Sometimes when we try to chase try to talk to members and clarify their comments, i have to chase them down the hallways that wasnt the case with congressman nugent. He and his staff invited us into his office where i asked him if he stands by his comments that some of these children coming illegally are actually gang members. He said yes, and explained why. I believe that some members of ms 13 have come across the border. I know that only because of the reports from fox news, from phoenix that reported in an interview with the president of the Border Patrol union that was talking about just that particular issue. And it is about 16 that were identified because of the tattoos they had. It doesnt mean theyre all identified. But as a sitting member of congress, you also have access to try to get information on your own, not with news reports. Right. Have you tried to figure out if what you saw and what you said is accurate . Well, i mean, i can only go by what the Border Patrol, the president of the union said. I would suspect that he is being accurate. I have no way of doublechecking that. Its not within my district. You do take that at face value, because as a fellow Law Enforcement officer, i dont think he is going to lie to us. Now, he mentioned that he is a fellow Law Enforcement officer, anderson. Congressman nugent was actually a sheriff for 38 years before he came here on the republican wave in 2010. And he said that thats why he heard these comments. He believes it. But he also did say he understands that it is likely a very small number. This Customs Union had it is just 16 they had identified. That really pales in comparison to the 50,000 that were seeing come across. But he is also eager to say he is a parent, he is a grandparent. He obviously feels for these kids, the majority of whom are probably fleeing from terrible conditions at home. It is interesting, though. In the headlinesgrabbing rhetoric, you know, when people are screaming, thats what theyre screaming about. Its not the factual 16 members of ms. And no doubt there are gang members coming over. We all know this. But to paint everybody with a broad brush seems an odd thing. And factually incorrect. It seems like every time immigration becomes a serious issue we get this kind of inflamed talk, particularly those against any kind of Reform Efforts and just want to focus on border security. And many are republicans. Does your party risk being damaged by this, and what do you make of this kind of rhetoric . First of all, some of the majority of the Congress People who you highlighted in this story frankly are the ones who is the only reason they live is to be antiimmigration. Its why they get on tv. They dont get on tv because theyre relevant when it comes to any other passing of legislation. Really the ironic part here, anderson, that hasnt been talked about much is that the United States when we deported criminal aliens back to these countries, which i think we have every right to do, and anybody who comes here and becomes a criminal should be deported, but we deported a lot of these gang members who had taught themselves and become gang member here is in the United States, exported all those bad things they knew into countries that have broken down justice systems. They just dont have the ability, that they are corrupt, they are inept, they are incapable of dealing with a flow of gang members going back into these countries. And it turned into a very big problem in central america, which is now biting us back in this current situation. Ana, youre exactly right. Back when i was with abc news, in 9596, i was down in el salvador doing stories on just that, on gang members from l. A. , from 18th street, from ms who had been deported and rightfully so because they had broken laws, ended up starting the street gangs in el salvador that have gravitated south. Its become a huge major issue. Dan, if you look at recent polling, certainly democrats arent faring that better either. Why do you think that is . I think its two things. One is there is a lot of crisis fatigue, and its hard to look at what is going on at the border right now and put anybody in the right. I think people see a crisis and have a basic sense that nobody is doing a perfect job here. And then among democrats you have to remember the president was under pressure from advocates and from democrats, and remains under pressure. And from some democrats to do a lot more from the undocumented population that is already in the United States administratively. Because republicans in congress have decided that they cant or wont do comprehensive Immigration Reform, he is under a lot of pressure to ratchet back the deportations, ratchet back some of the enforcement that he has been engaged in over the course of the last five or six years. The politics on this on the democratic side of the house is quite different than what weve seen from republicans in that abhorrent rhetoric that you had at the top of the segment. It is interesting, dan. We had on sheriff babieu from arizona. I was kind of stunned. Maybe im naive on this. For a Law Enforcement guy, he put out a press release saying that no federal Immigration Laws are being enforced. Which is just factually ridiculous. Whether or not you agree theyre effective laws, whether or not you think theyre ridiculous laws, even the way the kids are being treated is based on a federal Immigration Law from 2008. So there is so much rhetoric that is not factually correct which is inappropriate at a time like, this particularly for a sheriff to be putting forward. Absolutely. This is in the context of a president who is being assailed again by immigration, proimmigration advocates as the deporter in chief. A guy who what deported 400,000 undocumented immigrants per year throughout his presidency in accordance with man dates of federal Immigration Law as passed by congress, and monies appropriated by congress. So the notion that Immigration Law isnt being enforced is ludicrous. But it also shows how detached from reality the voice, the antiimmigrant voices are in this debate. And sadly that. Tend to concentrate in one political party. And they tend to concentrate within the Republican Party. And theyve held that Republican Party hostage in the house in a way that doesnt allow a comprehensive solution or part of a comprehensive solution, part of Immigration Reform to move forward. Its something that is supported by the majority of the country. And beyond forgetting about comprehensive Immigration Reform. Just in the time before, Congress Goes away on break, do you see some sort of change or whether to repeal the 2008 law started all this. Do you see some sort of actual change or something that will actually take place that can affect all these kids coming over . Well, we do think that at least next week the house of representatives is going to pass something. Likely going to be a change to that 2008 law. And probably some form of the money that the president is asking very unlikely. Its not going to happen that he is going to get the 3. 7 billion that he wants. But the issue is then going to be what about the democrats. Dan is exactly right. Just in the last hour, the Homeland Security secretary, jay johnson was here on capitol hill, trying to convince not just republicans, his fellow democrats that theyve got to change that 2008 law to try to make all of these countries Central American and the contiguous countries the same to be able to allow the government, the administration to send people back without these hearing. And that is a very controversial thing within the democratic caucus. And it is sort of strange there is a different law for people from mexico, for kids from mexico versus kids from central america. Actually, it was not a law for kids from central america. It was trafficking. It was an amendment that was sponsored by senator Dianne Feinstein back in 2008. And it was meant to protect victims of human trafficking. So that they wouldnt be immediately repatriated and fall back into the hands of the human traffickers immediately after being repatriated. Never having the intent and never foreseeing that this issue would pop up. Right. But, again, look, anderson, were talking about our neighbors in the region. You know, people that can actually walk over here, ride a train over here, ride a bus over here. So its very different than if were doing something with nigeria or some other country where these things are not possible. I think we have to stop the finger wagging. We have to stop the partisan blaming. We have to look at this problem comprehensively. Look at all the factors, and really be able to address it and do so quickly and also with a degree of compassion. Ana navarro, appreciate it. Dana bash and dan restrepo. You can see the interview with congressman nugent on our website. A quick reminder. Set your dvr. You can watch ac 360 any time. Still ahead, undocumented immigrant Jose Antonio Vargas about his recent brush with the law, apprehended along the border. Well talk to him in a moment. 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You sent a tweet saying you arent sure how you are going to be able to leave. Did you really have no idea this would happen . So, i think its really important i clear up the timeline. So i flew down there because i was invited by undocumented youth leaders from there and also from d. C. To come down as a way to show solidarity with what is happening with the Child Migrant crisis. I actually went and visited a shelter, and we filmed in the shelter what is happening with the refugees, what is happening with these children, which is just completely heartbreaking. So i flew down thursday morning. The moment i got there, one of the young women, one of the people who lived there, tanya chavez said to me oh my god, im really happy youre here. But how are you going to get out. And i looked at her and i what are you what are you talking about . Ive been flying around the country with a filipino passport and there has never been a problem. And she said but youre on the texas border. 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