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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 October 9, 2014

A reminder of what a deadly enemy it is and how the Health Care System must do Everything Possible the fight it. The three key steps are first thinking of the possibility of ebola and identifying who may have the disease and second they can be rapidly tested and third isolated. Thats crucial for our response. Identification, diagnosis and safe care of anyone who may have ebola needs to be top of mind right now for Health Care Providers throughout the country. In a moment Elizabeth Cohen will dig deeper into whether those steps were taken. What do you know, gary . Reporter anderson a Dallas County sheriffs deputy who was one of First Responders is now being treatmented himself for the possibility of ebola in the very same hospital where mr. Duncan was. It started this afternoon around 12 30 in the town of frisco which is 30 miles north of dallas. This deputy went into an Urgent Care Center saying he didnt feel well. Doctors determined he had some symptoms of ebola. About nine emergency vehicles came to the scene. The deputy car was roped off by police tape. 14 people were inside the Urgent Care Center. They were told not to leave. Then he was rushed by ambulance to the hospital. Authorities are saying there is a low risk of ebola and it was because of the reasons. He was never with duncan. Duncan was already in the hospital. This deputy has never been to west kafr aafrica. Hes not one of the 48 contacts medical officials are keeping an eye on. A short time ago the deputys son spoke out. He woke up sore and fatigued and had a bit of stomach ache. No fever. No vomiting, diarrhea or anything like that. Just experiencing somewhat flulike symptoms. Again, my dad being the cautious person just decided to be safe than sorry. Just kind of scared. Want to make sure hes okay. Just waiting to get all the facts and make sure nothing gets blown out of proportion. We are just waiting to see. Were not expecting him to test positive. Reporter of the 48 people that medical authorities are keeping an eye on, we can tell you none has exhibited any symptoms. You got to give kudos for this officer for going in with an abundance of caution. How long will it take know whether he does have ebola . Reporter authorities are telling us it will take a maximum of 14 days but probably wont take that long. We should emphasize the cdc is saying it and authorities in texas are saying hes at very low risk for ebola so thats good news. That bears repeating. Thanks. Thomas eric duncan did lose his battle today. Mr. Duncan was initially sent home with antibiotics even when they knew he had been in liberia. I spoke with his partner several times on this program she was begging from help from the United States government for him and had concerns that maybe he wasnt getting the same aggre aggressive treatment as others did. Now that hes dead the question is was enough done to save his life. Reporter he lay sickened in his hospital bed for six days bvr Texas Health Presbyterian hospital used an experimental medication and his family said he never got a blood donation. Compare to to nbc camera man also fighting ebola. He arrived at the university of nebraska on monday and doctors immediately gave him an experimental antiviral medication. He was turned away from the hospital. He was given an experimental drug at the final hour. His family was locked in an apartment for nine days with toxic materials. So, to top it all off he wasnt given a blood clot treatment nor was he allowed to video chat with his own family. To me theres some discrepancies when we have people that have survived in america. Why couldnt mr. Duncan had survived . Reporter ebola patients all got experimental medications almost immediately. Brantley and sacre received blood donations. All this on top of the fact that duncan showed up at presbyterian on september 25th with a fever and blood pain. He said he travelled to liberia but still they told him to go home. A huge lapse on the part of the hospital. He was admitted september 28th missing three days he could have been treated and extending the days he potentially could have affected others. The thing that should be of great concern is that he was discharged from the hospital and sent home and was allowed the be in the community. Reporter when asked why it took nearly a week to get the medication to duncan the hospital told cnn the care team has been consulting with the cdc in emory on the daily basis discussing the treatment including the use of investigational drugs. Duncans girlfriend isnt satisfied issuing a statement thanking many people but not his doctors and nurses and she added i trust a thorough examine nation will take place regarding all aspects of his care. Elizabeth joins me from dallas. Hou how much of a difference could it have made if mr. Duncan had gotten treatment sooner . Reporter anderson, we dont have a crystal ball but when i was in liberia doctors who treat ebola patients could emphasize enough if patients get to them sooner they have a significantly higher chance of savoring them. Getting care at day 3 versus day 6 just those three days they said could make the world of a difference. All right. Thanks very much. Pastor george mason was the one who broke the news to duncans partner that he had died. He joined me. Thanks for being with us. How are they taking the news . Did they when i last talked to her she knew he had taken a turn for the worse but did she realize the end was so close . She really didnt. Yesterday when she heard that the new treatment protocol was issued her spirits were cheered. She let out gratitude to god. She was thinking and all of them were thinking that there was a lot more hope and he was on his way up instead of down. This morning when we delivered that news it was really devastating. Im wondering how focused is louise on what could and should have been done differently. I know you said she was going through the what ifs. She does what everybody does in times like these. You ask yourself what you could have done differently. You wonder what other people could have done differently. This is reality that you dont want to have to accept. We can only live forward. We cant live back ward. While she has to trust that there are people who will investigate all of these things and seek justice and make sure that protocols were followed and while she can get assurances from many of us a and Public Officials about that, she can only live forward. Weve have been trying to help her concentrate on where the reality of things are now and how to live by faith and not to focus in that direction solely. Obviously, faith is very important to her. Shes talked about that with me a lot. She has a son with mr. Duncan who is now a college student. Obviously our thoughts are with him as well. What happens now in terms of giving mr. Duncan a funeral . Will he be buried in the United States. Theres a concern about ebola transmission even after the patient has passed away. Its my understanding he will be cremated. Those are details i dont have all the answers for. I know shes willing for that to happen as is he. There are no decisions that have been made about final disposition of the remains. We are talking this evening in a little while here at the church. There was to be a prayer vigil for mr. Duncan and for louise and the boys but now its turning into a memorial service. Its a nice thing to do. In terms of the familys own health, louises health, her son, you were in the same room as them. I know you couldnt touch them. You had to stand several feet away. How are they Feeling Health wise. What was it like being there . Well, it is one of those things that is an abundance of caution that we stay three feet away and we dont touch and we stand instead of sit and those sorts of things. Thats probably much more than needs to happen under the circumstances because they are still asymptommatic. They get their temperature taken twice day. So far they are doing well. I will tell you that the heartbreaking thing is when they received the news. They needed to be able to hold each other. Im used to hugging someone like that. She fell to the floor and had to suffer alone. We were there together but we were not able to be together and comfort each other. This is a secondary tragedy of this case. I talked about that with nancy and her husband. Nancy had gotten tested pos tite positive. Is when she first got the news she was positive for ebola her husband tried to hug her and she said you cant touch me. That isolation has got to be such the disease is horrible enough. The isolation not being able to have that physical touch from a loved one has got to be so painful. It really is. Love makes you want to move toward someone and to embrace them and share whatever joy our pain that they are sharing. We are physical human beings. Were body and spirit together. Not to be able to do so is sort of a break in our human nay neeture. Its been challenging to them. Our thoughts about mr. Duncan that should be pointed out that he most likely contracted this because he saw a teenage pregnant girl in the area where he was staying collapse on the ground and he went to help her as did many people in that village. That should be noted on this day in which he has lost his life. He lost his life because he reached out in a human moment to help somebody else in need. I really think youre right. We have to decide. We have to decide how were going to tell peoples stories. I think youre doing a good job saying there that everyones not a villain or a victim. Sometimes theres actually enormous virtue involved. A number of people in that village who helped that young girl they have also either gotten sick or already passed way. Pastor mason i appreciate all you do. Thank you for being with us. Theres break news about the nurses assistance in pain who is if first bern to be diagnosed outside of west africa. We know her name. Terese ramos. We know her dog has been euthanized. Some studies have shown that dogs can carry the virus. So far no human infection vs been linked to dogs. Set your dvrs to watch 360 when ever you want. Its a common scene in west africa. Some passengers at five of americas busiest airports will be getting their temperatures taken as well as new measures to try to contain the ebola outbreak. Well take you to liberia for reaction to thomas duncans death. What people in his home country are saying tonight. R analytics. Your goals, our technology. Introducing synchrony financial, bringing new meaning to the word partnership. 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I think were looking for ways to make sure we have identified as many people as possible. I think thats a reasonable stab at it. The problem is its still not going to be complete. There will be people slipping through. There will be people asymptommatic and they will be incubating. I think were taking the steps to try to reduce the chances that somebody will slip in. I dont object to them. I think about the forms that say have you had contact with livestock or agriculture for those diseases. Anybody who wants to try to get through customs quickly will more than likely say no, i had no contact. Other than the temperature still depends on self pureporting. Not only that but selfreporting in a written form. The better way to do that, if you could, would have facetoface, verbal communication with the security questions or these Public Health questions will be asked directly and people tend to be forthright when its directly asked. Whats your reaction to the screening plan . I know you were skeptical of whether the u. S. Could afford to screen all passengers. It seems like a more targeted plan. Do you think it will be effective . I think the key thing is its targeting these five key airports where the travelers where the three areas will travel through. That really makes it a lot more feasible and focus and will cost less. Of course, its another layer of Public Health intervention. Travel in those countries are being screened. This just adds another layer of Public Health screening. I think it has potential to be effective even if it prevents one or two people from traveling into the u. S. It would make it worthwhile. Theres been a lot of focus on whether flights should be stopped from coming in but what about just visas. Mr. Duncan applied for a visa to come to the United States, as i understand it, from louise. I suppose thats another point of contact where people could be screened more aggressively. Potentially, yes. It would depend whether its going to be just a paper form that somebody is filling in to get a visa or would you have a facetoface contact interview with the person. Youre really trying to tease out that information and trying to ask people to be very honest in this instance about their exposures, where they have traveled to. It would depend on how sufficient successfully you could institute that. The story behind the headlines on all of this is just how budgets devoted to Public Health, Disaster Preparedness have been slashed dramatically since 9 11. They rose immediately after 9 11. Skyrocketed and then they just been coming down every year. Were really not good at paying attention to these long Term Investments that will keep us prepare and safe. This is really something that hopefully one of the positive things that might come out of this whole episode tragically is going to be an exposure of this cutting back of the funding that we absolutely need to make sure our hospitals are prepared and that our Public Health departments are capable of having the manpower and stuff to make sure the country is possible. Its like infrastructure. Nobody pays attention until a bridge collapses and everybody is like why werent we paying attention. In some ways worst. People arent aware of what needs to help. You cross the bridge every day and see the corrosion. If nothing happens dramatically, you wait and theres a big thing and everybodys up in arms. It was wake up call but are we going to hit the snooze alarm button and get back into complacency. I hope the administration and congress will get together and say we have to restore the funding. I want to you about something particular about the spanish nurse. Before i say what it is, people will say how can you ask this question because so many people are dying in west africa. I ask this question because when people hear her dog was euthanized in spain, its beyond, i know there were big demonstrations in spain about that. Just as a reservoir for this virus, is that a real potential reservoir for the virus. Can pets carry it . They can. There was study done by cdc in 2001 and 2002 and there was an outbreak. They found that dogs were coming into contact with infected humans and dogs would carry the virus without showing any signs of infection. They wouldnt even get sick. What the researchers did find is when the dogs excreted things that the virus was found in that and potentially they could be spread to humans but the researchers could not say for sure that transmission would occur from dogs to humans. I appreciate you being on. You can find out more on this story at cnn. Com. What people in liberia are saying tonight about his death. 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