Trying to figure out what is happening in that townhouse there. At this hour you have atf here, you have fbi, local authority. Just to give you perspective. They moved us back a number of times. We are about a half mile from the townhouse in question right here. What is going on . They are attempting to issue a search warrant inside. We dont know who that is for specifically. What we do know is that it is tied in some way to the horrific shooting that took place not far from here this afternoon. What we also know is that theyre using a robot. A robot right now, as you know, they have used in situations like this before to go in, check the entirety of the house, see if there are any explosive devices. They are being extraordinarily cautious. They have also evacuated neighbors on either side of the townhouse, were told and everyone who lives in this neighborhood has been told to shelter in place and be careful, stay in their homes. You cannot get within a half mile of this house right now. Poppy harlow. And any indication they are trying to execute a search warrant. Im sure there is no indication from authorities as to when they will get the search warrant to go inside of this place. But take us to the scene. We are seeing a number of vehicles moving by. Were seeing police tape and roads blocked off. Right. And they just keep moving us back further and further away because they are being so cautious. What you have is this fbi, Police Perimeter around that keeps moving back further and further. You have dozens and dozens of agents. Scott glover, come in the shot we many. How many agents are when you were closer to the home how many agents were there . I could caught several dozen. This scene has been unfolding for hours now. And initially there was a small Police Presence, maybe ten officers. As time passed they kept rolling in. Lets talk about why this is so importants this location. It was tips in the aftermath of the shooting that led officers here. Someone said something that led officers to this home. They saw the dark colored suv pull away from this home. That is the suv that had the two suspects in it, the man and woman who were killed. Thats what Law Enforcement officials said this evening. And prior to that press conference thats when the Police Presence began to build. There were s. W. A. T. Vehicles rolling out here. You saw officers dressed in military fatigues casing the place and more and more officers fan to arrive. At some point a robotic device was brought out of a fire truck. Its still in there as far as we know. At one point there was a loud bang. I cant say if it was an explosion. Was it a controlled dead nati detonation or what. He doesnt have an ifb. Ask him, we were wondering. He saw the robot go in, did he see any people go inside or just the robot . You saw the robot go inside. Did you see people go inside . From my fvantage point i coud see the robot going down the street. But i could not see once it turned the corner and see people making entry. Its clear they did go into that direction. Poppy yeah, don i need you to stand by. Well get back to you. Deborah feyerick has new information for us. What do you know . What we are learning now also is that authorities generated a lead that turned up the name of an individual connected to that home. So detectives were sent to the home in redlands and while they were waiting at the home a black suv with utah plates passed by slowly and sped up and raced by. The detectives gave chase but it was another police car that was looking for this black suv that actually spotted it, gave chase and the shootout ensued. The male suspect, a witness tells police was shooting out of the vehicle. It drove for about a quarter of a mile. And as the officer returned fire it appears that the female who was driving the car was hit. And the shootout continued for a while longer and both suspects in the vehicle were killed. Again there is still a lot of questions as to whether there is a third suspect and where that person is. But you have to get into the mind of the s. W. A. T. Teams, of the Police Officers, of the sheriffs that are responding to all of this, there is a lot of conflicting information. And so they are responding quickly but they are trying to resolve what the questions are and try to figure out who is out there and how they are going to manage this. Because and they are doing this all in a highstress situation. A lot of duress. They are trying to work it out. But it was a tip on that black suv that led to the home in redlands, california. And thats how that you got these two individuals so closely, don. A tip on the black suv leading to the home in redlands, california near where poppy harlow is, and our producer scott glover standing outside of that. But deb, who was driving and who was shoot . You said the female was hit first but who was driving the vehicle and who was shooting out of it . Ultimately both were hit. Its not clear what order they were hit. But according to a source who is being briefed on this, the woman was driving the vehicle. The driver and the other gunman knew that they were being chased by police. A police car right behind them. And so the man was leaning out of the car shooting at the pursuing cop vehicle. And thats when the whole sort of gunfight broke out. But it appears that the woman was hit and thats when the car came to a stop. Deborah feyerick reporting the breaking news this evening. Saying a tip on this black suv that we have been watching on cnn where the two suspects were inside thats what led investigators to this home in redlands, california where they are executing a search warrant with a robot, trying to figure out if there is an explosive device there and if there is one, how they secure it. And residents in that neighborhood and some in the surrounding area near that townhouse have been told to leave. But the rest of the people have been told to shelter in place. To shelter in place. As we are getting this information i want to bring in my experts now. And i want to talk to, lets see, jim maxwell are you there in philadelphia . Jim maxwell is a retired fbi consultant. As you are looking at the information about how this went down and how the tip went out and how they got to the house, does this change anything for you . No, its just good police work. Everything seems to be or is starting to fall into place. How they got from point a to point b. And again, we have to go back and look at the pedigree of these two individuals of the people who died at the scene to get a full picture of what is going on here. If we can back up. I agree with the doctors assessment that this could be workplace violence. There could be a connection between one of these individuals with the location where the shooting took place. But the one thing that doesnt fit, the willingness of the individuals to engage uniformed officers in a shootout. That doesnt make sense to me. There is a lot of theories and speculation. Until we understand whoa these people are we wont have a clear picture. Why drive by the house, and slow down and speed up . I think they were they were busted when they did that. I could be wrong or they were trying to get Law Enforcement to engage them. Thats a possibility. Someone just wrote me on twitter and suggested that their spouse works with social services and they get threats constantly because theyre taking kids away and so on and so forth. I dont know the facts with this individual and his wife or if they had a kid and if that kid was taken away if that played a role in this thing. But i agree with the last assessment there as this unfolded, it was so organized it goes beyond the capacity of someone who is randomly trying to plan an attack. This had a structure to it and the scary thing overall is if we look at the tactics used overseas we can put together an idea of who is responsible for the idea of this by looking at the tactics that are used over there, the fact a woman was used in this could lead to something. The potential is there that goes to fundamental islam. Thats the first thing i thought when i found out that a woman was involved. They can. Of course. But the women in terrorism are almost always suicide bombers. But as soon as i heard that thats the first thing i thought that they were somehow could be a possibility, maybe lean toward terrorism. Lets get back to california where this is all going down. I need to get to kyung lah also on the investigation. You heard Deborah Feyericks reporting. You had reporting about who these suspects are that they werent sure of the names. But just what they did and what led to police finding these particular suspects. What the police at this point are still trying to determine is the exact relationship between the male suspect and the female suspect. What they found most curious about this and what we heard scott and poppy mention is how cautious they are being approaching the house in redlands, during the pursuit, the suspects threw a pipe from that car that quarter mile police chase, they threw a pipe from the car and it had a wick in it. It ended up being a fake pipe bomb. But thats why they had to approach carefully. About 15 minutes ago we heard a detonation here. Thats something that the atf said they were going to do. They have found some type of explosive suspicious device here at the original shooting scene. In is the scene where 14 people were killed. This is where it all began and because of that they had to approach this scene carefully and they are approaching the redlands house carefully. Found on the suspects were a number of clips. They were heavily armed and they certainly appeared to be ready to engage police, don. Stand by, the new information were getting in, this is Deborah Feyerick reporting here saying after the shooting, authorities generated a lead that turned up a name and based on that, detectives were sent to the home in redlands and while there a black suv with utah plates passed by slowly and then sped up and raced by. And a police car spotted the suv and then began pursuit and a shootout there. The male suspect shooting out of the vehicle. It continued for a quarter mile and stopped as an officer returned fire, hitting the woman who was driving and that is when they believe the car went out of control and they were able to shoot those suspects. Cnns evan perez is our justice correspondent and checking his sources. What information do you have for us . We can shed more light as to why they ended up in the house at the redlands. They quickly knew who the suspect was or one of the suspects was that carried out the shooting at the irc. That is the reason why they went to that home. And thats the reason why they have been searching all these the last few hours. They believed pretty quickly they knew who was carrying out the shooting. The reason why this occurred was a according to Law Enforcement they believe that the suspect first was inside this holiday party, this Christmas Party that was being held by the county Health Department that this suspect was either tied to, there was a relationship with this event. And this suspect was asked to leave or was left the event because of an altercation or dispute, then came back and the shooting began. Thats what the scenario was. We are told by Law Enforcement that it is possible that there never were three shooters and there were only two. The idea there were three shooters came from some of the initial witness reports which as you know often turn out to be inaccurate. Thats now what Law Enforcement is trying to determine. We know that a third person was detained near the scene where that final shootout where the two suspects were killed. We know a third person was a stopped, detailed, questions, the person has not been identified by Law Enforcement. We dont know whether that person has any relationship to this event. And at this point it is beginning to look like to Law Enforcement that perhaps what we are dealing here with are two shooters who began the shooting this morning at 11 00 a. M. At San Bernardino and then were shot dead in that final showdown on the street a few miles away. Jim maxwell, why would they throw out a fake pipe bomb . Well, many times criminals will use a hoax device to slow down the response of Law Enforcement. Ive seen it used in Bank Robberies where a hoax device has been left at the scene to slow down the response of the arriving officers. That may be what they had in mind. It may be a device that didnt function. Until they do a complete analysis on these devices thats a guess on my part. But a hoax device would be used to slow down Law Enforcement response. Arthur roderick joins us now. My question for you is given what we know about these suspects, a man and woman, how they were dressed, what kind of ammunition and guns and artillery they were carrying, the fake pipe bombs that they engaged police, what is your assesment of this . Obviously there was a lot of planning that went into this. When you have two people with aa ar15type weapons. They have a plan to get in there, a plan to spend a certain amount of time at that location, to get maximum casualty impact and then to leash and get away. You know, they could have very well planned this out and then underestimated Law Enforcement response, which obviously was very quick, for them to come up with that location in redlands that quickly, im sure that the bad guys here didnt think we were going to be able to come up with that information so quickly. And we could have because of the Quick Response we could have stopped another location from getting hit also. The desperate search for answers after a mass shooting in San Bernardino, california. We are awaiting a News Conference and will bring that to you when it happens. A quick break. Were back on the other side. Im there for bessie. Im there for ray. Ted loved baseball. Dr. Phil likes to watch football. Renne, who wants sloppy joe on the menu every day. Rosies my best friend. Evelyn likes to dance. Harriett wants her fried shrimp as well. Alice anne likes Vanilla Ice Cream with chocolate syrup and rainbow sprinkles. They give me so much back. I cant even imagine how i could possibly give them what they give me. Back now with our breaking news. We are awaiting a News Conference where we should get updated information from the events that are transpiring in San Bernardino, california, what is happening in redlands at that home where they are executing a search warrant where a robot is inside trying to check on whether there is an explosive device inside and give authorities more information on that. And if there is how they secure that in a neighborhood where many, many people live. So were standing by for that. In the meantime, president president obama briefed by his staff learning moments about it before sitting down for a planned interview where he called for tighter gun laws. The one thing that we do know is that we have a pattern now of Mass Shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. And there are some steps we could take not to eliminate every one of these Mass Shootings but to improve the odds that they dont happen as frequently. Common sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks. And for those who are concerned about terrorism, you know, some may be aware of the fact that we have a nofly list where people cant get on planes but those same people we dont allow to fly could go in a store right now in the United States and buy a firearm and there is nothing we can to the stop them. Thats a law that needs to be change. President obama speaking to cbs news in a planned interview just moments after this shooting happened. Joined now by dan gross, the president of the Brady Campaign to prevent gun violence. Good evening, mr. Gross. You tweeted this and what most people were thinking. Not again, at least 20 victims down amid active mass shooting event in San Bernardino. How do you feel when you hear those reports over and over again . Our nation is being terrorized whether its these Mass Shootings that seem to be happening on a regular basis or the 89 gun deaths that happen every day in our country and the president is right. There are things we can do about it. Things that the overwhelming majority of the American Public supports. The American Public has had enough of the Mass Shootings, of the 89 gun deaths every day. And background checks is the right place to start. Background checks are effective in keeping guns out of the hands just of the people we all agree shouldnt have them. But the problem is that the brady background checks that are so effective arent conducted at gun shows or online. A convicted felon, a domestic abuser, a known or suspected terrorist can go into a gun show or online and guy a gun no questions asked. Its a sensible fix that 93 of americans support expanding brady background checks at gun shows. Speaking of numbers, youre giving numbers there. Some statistics. Let me give you a couple more here. There have been more than one mass shooting a day so far this year. When you define a mass shooting as incidents in which four or more people are killed or injured by gunfire. 351 Mass Shootings in 334 days. So why do you think we are all willing to live with those numbers right now . Were not. The American Public has so clearly had enough. The problem is our destiny, our fate, our safety, our lives are being controlled by a small group of politicians in congress. And the American Public needs to make our voices heard. We know that expanding brady background checks to all gun sales has nothing to do with a lawabiding citizen to buy a gun. So you know, were not willing to accept it. And the encour