I like paul, but these are horrible times for our country and we need very strong leadership and we need very, very strong leadership and im just not quite there. If that wording sounds familiar to you, youre right. Speaker ryan once said the same about donald trump. Im just not ready to do that at this point. Im not there right now. Paul ryan spokesman this evening said the speaker has never sought trumps endorsement. As for senator mccain whom he mocked youll recall for being taken prisoner by the north vietnamese trump said he hasnt been good enough for veterans. Philip who wrote it for the Washington Post. A lot of focus on the words he used for paul ryan. Im not quite there yet, obviously very similar to what ryan said about trump in may. Did trump give you any indication when he would be making up his mind or if he would . Its hard not to see this as anything other than a warning shot on ryan. I saw it as just that, a warning shot. He did not indicate whether he would make an endorsement at all before next tuesdays primary and its a Remarkable Development in the Republican Party just two weeks ago. Ryan was on stage at the convention with trump, endorsing trump and trying to show party unity and here we have the president ial nominee refusing to back the top elected official in the party in his primary. And john mccain, as well and this is such an extraordinary situation, phil and can you recall when the republican president ial nominee has declined to endorse both the republican speaker of the house and a prominent u. S. Senator who was himself the partys nominee just eight years ago . I dont know that this has ever happened, but this is a different kind of candidate and a different kind of Campaign Year and donald trump made it very clear in my interview with him that he sees himself as the head of the Republican Party and that hes other Republican Leaders like paul ryan and john mccain that when they criticize him they need to get in line and support him. He talked about kelly aillot being weak. His comments about the khan family over the weekend and i see this as trump getting retribution. Well, is it heres a Conspiracy Theory some people are throwing out. Is it possible donald trump did this in order to get the conversation to be about this as opposed to be about the khans . Well, if that was his goal it worked because thats what were talking about here tonight and its been all over the news all afternoon. You know, i dont know if this was a deliberate strategy. He did not bring this up voluntaril voluntarily. I asked him about speaker ryan and the endorsement in the interview and he was responding to me. Trumps National Spokeswoman was on with wolf blitzer arguing there was no story that trump was answering your questions and he wasnt attacking anyone and he is the republican president ial nominee and he knows what he says about paul ryan and john mccain would have an impact, i would assume. I believe he used that similar language from the jake tapper interview a couple of months ago. He knew what he was doing and he repeated it several times over the course, and they knew this would be a news story. So theres something here. But just to be clear, as you said, this is something you asked him about. This wasnt like he intentionally brought up or he said before the interview oh, by the way, i want to talk about paul rian. Thats correct. Last night donald trump tweeted something complimentary of paul ryans op bonent and it led to speculation that he was trying to lift up the primary opponent and i asked him about that and i asked him to clarify what he meant by that tweet and whether he would endorse ryan and you see what he said. New york times Political Correspondent pat reich heely and cnn political analyst and dana bash and Political Writer for the atlantic. Dana, i know youve been reaching out to your gop sources, does anyone think this isnt personal . Because trumps spokeswoman says donald trump is not getting involved in the republican primaries. No. I have not found anyone who doesnt think this isnt personal and ive heard her say and she is right that there are times when Republican Leaders and donald trump is the, you know, one of the leaders if not the leader of the Republican Party now because he is the president ial nominee. And they dont get involved with primaries, but this is different. It is different for a number of reasons and number one is because when it is the speaker of the house, it is kind of expected and tradition for other likeminded leaders to get behind him and not the challenger from the right, but also as i was reminded by a senior republican here in washington a couple of hours ago, anderson, paul ryan nominated mike pence, trumps Vice President ial running mate at the convention. He put mike pences name into the nomination, you know, making it formal. So its not as though hes kind of a stranger here impeach i mean, he is somebody who has clearly thought to do what he could, somewhat reluctantly at times, but did what he could to help the ticket and you know, theres no question that there is a personal animosity there because of his delay in endorsing and as you were talking about with philip the fact that ryan was critical about trump and about the khan family. Paul ryan has now endorsed donald trump. John mccain saying he is supporting trump and these are not rank and file republicans running some obscure rates. No, but i remember interviewing donald trump the day before his ryan meeting in june and that line by ryan, im still not there yet, it was galling to trump and it still struck in his throat and i remember that from the interview just how much he was still feeling it that clearly, this is a guy who takes slights and he loves the counter punch and one of the things from the interview and the point that he made is donald trump is the lead are of the party right now, but its feeling more and more like its the tea party. Hes sort of the leader of thats weighing on the Republican Party and hes sort of saying i am not interested in uniting and making peace and galvanizing sort of the broad Republican Party as we know it at that convention and even now, so much of the Energy Around this guy is about sort of saying okay, im the head of the wing of the tea party of the Republican Party and the rest of you are kind of on your own if youre not with me. Molly, its obviously another example of how trump is bucking traditional republican politics and yet hes done very well so far with that so why would anyone think this would cause him a problem . I think from day one of this Campaign Donald trump has been running against the Republican Party and the Republican Party that used to be thought that would stop once he became the nominee and they thought this was a twoway street that if they were loyal to him he would be loyal to them. What they didnt realize is that trump believes hes made a new party and hes never thought that he needed them and while this is personal and this is about slights to him, i really think we ought to take seriously the fact that he does think he has up ended this institution for the better and he does think its a new party now and this is in a way ideological and making the Republican Party stand for things he wants it to stand for and if people dont get in line with him hes not going to meet them that way. Did he know he was speaking to the Washington Post . I thought he wasnt speaking to the Washington Post anymore. He did. It was a lengthy interview on the record. We are banned from covering his events and that includes me and my colleagues, but he does still talk to us as do his aides. Were any advisers with him when he gave the interview . I know i know you said that some of his folks said they knew this would be a story and did anyone in the circle seem rattled or concerned . That was not apparent during the interview. Nobody interrupted him or, you know, urged him to try to clarify his remarks or anything of that sort. Dana, where does this go from here . It was interesting how quickly ryans folks put out a statement saying we didnt ask for his endorsement, but i mean, would anyone would ryan or mccain or anyone old actually rescind their support of trump . Thats something that president obama is urging republicans to do. Which is the quickest way for them not to do it, by the way. Yes. Which may be the point, right. Which is a different conversation. Look, i think that the fact that paul ryan threw his Campaign Spokesman suggests that ryan is going to act the way paul ryan tends to act which is try to kind of keep his head down and hope that this blows over and not get into a tit for tat between the House Speaker and the republican nominee for president , that that doesnt serve anybody well because by all accounts he should be doing okay in his primary next week so his electoral future is probably not in real peril. John mccain is a different story. He has a primary at the end of the month and a tough reelection race against a democrat and already, anderson, his democratic opponent assuming he wins this primary is out saying, remember, john mccain has said that he would support the nominee 49 times or whatever it is. So the democrats are trying very hard to tie john mccain and kelly aillot who is also in a tough campaign in New Hampshire to donald trump. Its a tougher position for somebody like mccain. This is part of what donald trump does, right . During the primary, so much of his strategy was about sort of swagger and cowing his republican rivals, sort of into submission. Hes almost sort of daring mccain and ryan almost to take president obamas side on this and somehow sort of move off of them. The question, though, for the republicans is what happens to all of these kind of downballot candidates who have looked to ryan as the guy to give them signals about donald trump when even that relationship seems to be fraying. We also saw that governor pence has a meeting today with john mccain. 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Is that how you interpret this . As an attack . I think attack is strong. I think paul ryan will win either way and whether or not the Party Nominee who said he would endorse, and wants to return the favor, i dont think it will matter. Why do you think hes doing it . Why do you think he said it . I think its pretty clear that he was peeved with paul ryans reluctance. He threw him back the same word asks hes being cute with it and obviously, this will not matter for paul ryans primary reelection. I think hell be just fine. Kaley, is it just a personal thing . Is it him declaring war on the republican establishment . I think it is partly personal and declaring war on the republican establishment and you look at poll by poll and you saw not only anger and voters felt betrayed by the Republican Party and people like paul ryan who went to ryan, and supported cap and trade. Voters feel betrayed by these individuals and donald trump is not willing to play Party Politics and play the washington elite game. Donald trump did talk about uniting the Republican Party. This is not really the way to do that, is it . Well, uniting the Republican Party which consists of the people of the Republican Party. Donald trump set records this year. 14 Million People voted for donald trump and the Republican Party bought out a turnout and there are so many new voters that have gotten off their couch and now theyre involved and thats who hes speaking to and he has to continue speaking to those voters. Is this the way to bring in new voters. Its not a new way, then you shouldnt have had him chair your own convention and nominate your Vice President candidate. This is simply donald trump getting in his own way, frankly. He should be talking about Hillary Clinton, and he should be talking about low gdp numbers and he should not be picking these fights. Part of me thinks its a way of him saying that paul ryan is in on this rigged system hes imagining should he not win in november. Hes all over the place and hes a train wreck and he has to get back on track. The establishment and those who are consultants that are involved in this process. They think things are supposed to go as they always go and we know from day one of this primary process into this general election, donald trump has turned everything upside down. Isnt the number one priority right now getting elected president of the United States . Correct. Is that helpful . There are a number of issues that donald trump stands for that the republican establishment hasnt jumped onboard yet and we need to do better. Youve been part of the establishment as a chairman. You know that certain things need to happen in order to win an election and thats what he should be focusing on, not himself and not petty matters. All he has to do is make this a referendum if he would win. Susan, it would be completely disingenuous if he fullthroated endorsed. Donald trump lifted up the will of the people and he ran against the class that defies ideological lines and defies republicans. Kaley, to susans point, he did have paul ryan chair the convention, not only open it up, but also introduce mike pence and nominate mike pence. Who is also part of the establishment. He has set himself up. Dont say no. If you want to say paul ryan is a part of the establishment, he was the host of the convention and chairman of the convention, donald trump is just taking a little petty revenge because hes a petty person most of the time when it comes to donald trump. Thats all it is. Its