But when you compare director comeys Testimony Yesterday, which was quite compelling, believable and composed to the ways the president conducted himself today at the rose garden, i think james comey is going to win any credibility contest. What is your problem with how the president conducted himself today at the rose garden . This is a serious investigation, he was standing in quite a prestigious place, the rose garden and was asked if there were tapings, he sort of swintimated there were and said that investigation could be coming soon. There is not a reality show. This is the president of the United States with allegations of Obstruction Of Justice taking place. The president did say he was 100 willing to testify under oath. Will you call on the special counsel bob mueller to depose the president of the united
his side will be more believable . Jeff sessions apparently was in the room, Jared Kushner was in the room. And apparently theres more to hear from Admiral Rogers and coats. I think that will be telling as to who you would believe in a situation like this. But by comeys own admission, there were never more than two people in the world james comot President Trump and james comey. That may go to intent. If there are no taped produced by may 23, what are you prepared to do . Ill leave were seeking
this voluntarily. And if that is refused then well see if a subpoena is appropriate. I know that he has been signing off on subpoenas, i think thats inappropriate. I hope he stops doing that because we still need to work with him on nonrussia related matters and he needs to have credibility when we do that. Lets bring in our panel now, kirsten powers, laura coats and professor foley. I have never quite understood what the white house is playing out here with these tapes, the president said in that initial tweet, james comey better hope there are not tapings of this conversation. And then the white house refuseded to say whether or not these tapes exist. From a legal standpoint, what does the white house get for
being so vague . I dont know, a lot of speculation here, because we dont even know if the tapes exist, frankly, i these if the tapes do exist, one reason why the president might hesitate to turn over those tapes and be a little bit coy about that right now to buy some time for the white house lawyers and the legal team to assert executive privilege, thats a privilege that covers deliberations between the president and his closest advisors, so it may be that portions of the tapes are covered by the privilege and portions of them arent. And i think they would probably want to get their little legal eggs in a row before they reveal if the tapes existed. And right now theyre under no compulsion to turn them over. I have also never understood what the white house gets out of this game dancing around whether there are tapes . I dont know what the white house gets out of it either. Having been in the white house, i value the president of the United States being able to get candid advice in the oval office. If there would be publicly known that there was a Taping System, to me thats a little bit chilling, i sort of hope that there arent tapes because i think its extremely valuable to be able to speak with the president candidly which you cant do if there are tapes there. If there are tapes, the American People need to know, correct . I think were all out so far in front of our skis that we need to get back a little bit and get back in the chair lift. We could be talking here about a tape on a cell phone of a meeting we dont even know about or a partial meeting or whatever. Right now what is clear to those of us who have studied this white house is that donald trump is engaged in a scorched earth
battle against james comey and hes playing to his base for all its worth. Hes trying to discredit comey, hes trying to rouse his faith. He ees somebody thats worried about down the line, hes gone to the question, comey is a leaker, thinking that is going to discredit him, particularly with his own base, when in fact donald trump is a leaker, hes been a leaker for all of his professional life, hes even leaked by falsely impersonating himself under another name. So this is a big game in which the president and the people around him know that he has been damaged, that these investigations are closing in on him and right now he wants to
push the weight of his followers behind him and he wants to keep them in place so republicans on the hill dont abandon him. He needs to have republicans on the hill saying we need to get to the bottom of whatever it is that this president doesnt want us to know. So hes playing a game here. Susan powers, do you think there are tapes here . I think if there were tapings and they exonerated donald trump they would be released. Maybe there are tapes that dont exonerate him, maybe thats why hes being coy about it. Does anybody find this conversation bizarre, that this is a president of the United States, its literally like talking to a 14yearold, who wont answer a direct question. Hes not acting like an adult. Ill tell you later, i dont know, its this kind of
gaslighting and i feel hes the one who put it out there, hes the one who suggested it, we didnt come up with it, he did. Now he cant answer simply yes or no . Its so disturbing i dont even know what to say about anymore. The president agreed to testify under oath saying hes 100 willing to testify under oath. Next, Business Sizarre or not, the legendary tapes, perhaps doing what were doing right now, telling you something is coming up very, very soon. And others are doing everything from obstructing justice to starting world war 3. When you have allergies,
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habit of tossing around all kinds of fakely specific time frames. Youve said that has given. I will let you know that at a future date. Ill let you know that at a future date. It they sent investigators to hawaii and they cant believe what they found. What have they found . Were going to see what happens. What have you come up with your investigators . I dont want to say that now, but its going to be very interesting i interesting. If i decide to rung for office, ill release my tax returns. Maybe when we find out the true story on hillarys emails. Wiretap covers a lot of different things, i think youll find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks. Is that a cause for concern,
a subject of ridicule or no big deal . Maria, im not sure whether Dianne Feinstein in Judiciary Committee is responding to that specifically, but she said she wants to launch a senate Judiciary Committee into whether theres Obstruction Of Justice. This is Dianne Feinstein who in the past has said she has seen no hard evidence of collusion yet. So this is an interesting step for her. First of all, shes been somebody whos been incredibly concerned, i think as most americans are, as the crux of the issue, which doesnt seem to concern the president of the United States, that russia committed an Act Of War In Cyber attacking the United States in interferes and meddling in our elections and it doesnt seem like the president of the United States has any interest in getting to the bottom of that,
number two, i also think it comes from comeys testimony. President trump and his lawyers are out there saying that what comey said vindicated him. What he said when he was fired, donald trump may not have been under investigation personally, but he also said now that given everything that has transpired as of now that bob mueller is going to launch an investigation into what trump did. And those things are key and its why Dianne Feinstein has taken this a little more aggressively. Maybe well find out if the president s under investigation at some point. I want to bring laura coats into the conversation, the other giant bit of notes that we havent seen touched on, when the president says, 100 that he will testify. If he does in fact get called before Robert Mueller or agree
to sit voluntarily before Robert Mueller, he could be asked questions, could he not, that are somewhat different or are off topic from the russia investigation and he would be obligated to answers questions which can get him in trouble. President clinton was asked about things that werent about white water originally. The term collusion should come back to haunt him in this instance. There hasnt been a criminal statute. Youve got an open investigation, that doesnt have the parameters that doesnt give you the wiggle room to not answer certain questions, everything is fair game. The president has put himself in a very precarious situation, when he said, look, believe jim comey, for the things that sound more credible and make me more believable. But when you say hes a liar,
youre opening up questions that Robert Mueller may ask, a whole host of things that are investi. If he actually does that, he will open himself up to more criminal exposure and criminal liability and the snowball he thought he had by asking comey about the Flynn Investigation will become an avalanche. Scott jennings, on the issue of agreeing to testify or 100 hell testify, saas a political advisor, if you were asked that question, were you psyched that he said that . Or did you say now i know what he will be asked every day for the next five months. You have to admire somebody who has full confidence, what hes saying out loud, im going to tell you here in front of the
press, and im willing to tell that story under oath, that shoshow s hes very confident. I these we should take a step back and talk about what happened this week. Pressure the head of the fbi to end, alter or change an investigation. He has a lot of explaining to do. The only person that we found out that jim comey said pressured him was lynch. Not somebody from the Trump Administration. So were painting a dark picture of what comey said about trump. That Talking Point right now i think underscores how desperate trump is and his supporters are, because they know this dark cloud theyre trying to lift could become a funnel cloud. He said a lot of things yesterday, including five times in different ways, that President Trump was a liar. And he also did say that he felt that he was trying to get him to drop this case against flynn, he was very clear about that, that is how he interpreted what he said to him. So he said he felt pressured. So to the question youre asking him, about how should Trump Supporters feel when you hear the president saying hes going to do this. At the very beginning of this, i said, probably whats going to end up causing the biggest amount of problems for donald trump and his associates in the white house is getting put under oath and inevitably perjuring themselves. Thats not anything against them, we have seen that happen over and over again, Scooter Libby was found not to be the leaker, but he perjured himself. What started out to be an
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hours with Kenneth Starr and had to go on to the public airwaves television and say im guilty. But the key here is what happened with what Ronald Reagan did with iran contra, for Lawrence Walsh in 1998, reagan agreed to answer questions in writing. Donald trumps a tricky character, he might say 100 sworn testimony, but ill answer your questions in writing. You might see his lawyers to deal with it that way, because putting him from front of a mueller for 5 1 2 hours is pretty dangerous for trump. He said Ronald Reagan, so i had to ask you the next question by law here, do you think that the president should testify under oath or i should say out loud in front of bob mueller . Ill leave it to the lawyers,
but i like the reagan solution, do it in writing. This is about a war between washington and the washington establishment and a lot of the American People. And that really is whats going on here. And washington, i worked there for a long time, i love the place, but, boy, it is tribal warfare, these scenes that you would see of people lining up in bars in washington, d. C. To watch the comey hearings. I assure you right here in the middle of pennsylvan