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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 June 15, 2017

In the community of del ray, located in alexandria, virginia, seven miles from the capital. Four people were struck. Among them, House Majority whip Steve Scalise. The number three republican in the house of representatives. Congressman scalise was playing second base. Fielding some of the batting practice. He had just batted a few guys before. He dragged himself off of the infield into the outfield about 10 or 15 yards. Representative scalise hit in the hip and crawled his way out of the line of fire. It was multiple acts of courage, colleagues helping colleagues, that helped save the day. Representative winstrup attended to scalise. I felt like i was in iraq as a surgeon. Steve was conscious and okay. Mo brooks provided a tourniquet. I took off my belt. Myself and another congressman, i dont remember who, applied a tourniquet to try to slow down the bleeding. The heros of the day, Capital Police officers there who were there already to protect representative scalise. They immediately returned fire. Alexandria Police Arrived minutes later and exchanged bullets with the gunman. Thank god from the Capitol Police who were there guarding our majority whip. Because we were sitting ducks in that dugout. When i got in the dugout i realized there was blood all over the place. It was not a good place to be. Along with scalise, three others were shot and injured. Crystal griner, also matt mika, a lobbyist and former congressional staffer, and zachary barth, a staff member for representative roger williams. The president today calling for unity. We may have our differences, but we do well in times like these to remember that everyone who serves in our Nations Capital is here because above all, they love our country. I want to focus on the condition of the wounded. The president now at the hospital where Steve Scalise underwent surgery earlier today. Dr. Sanjay gupta joins us. How much do we know about his condition . Were just hearing from the hospital after he came out of surgery, which was sort of midafternoon around 2 30, 3 00, that he was in Critical Condition. Thats obviously concerning. We saw images of him, you may remember, at the scene. We hear that at the time time at the scene, he was stable. He was actually able to speak to his wife on the phone. He was transported by helicopter to the hospital. Five to ten minute transfer. By the time he arrived, he was in Critical Condition. Obviously, he seems to have some deterioration during that time. Was in surgery for several hours. Still in Critical Condition. This is obviously the job of the nurses and doctors to try to care for him and stabilize him, which is im sure what they are trying to do. There was a gunshot wound to the hip. No vital organs in the area. But there can be significant bleeding, though. Matt mika, a lobbyist practicing with the team, i understand he is in Critical Condition after being shot in the chest. What can you say about that . It sounds like this is the most serious. You are talking about a rifle, a very high velocity bullet to the chest. May have been multiple shots to the chest. Also had surgery. Is also in Critical Condition. All we are hearing is not surprising expected to be in the intensive care unit for several days. Unlike with a shot to the hip, to the chest because of the concerns of bleeding around the lungs, thats something they will have to be very carefully observing over the next several days. It sounds like the most concerning sort of victim of all of this. And the officers the heroic officers from the Capital Police department, whats the latest on their condition . Well, two officers david bailey, sound like had a gunshot wound to the foot area. Is in good condition. Still in the hospital. Probably likely to be released over the next day or so. We wish them all a speedy recovery. Thanks very much. With me is congressman barry loudermill and jack bergman who were there this morning much appreciate you spending time with us. I talked to a number of people who were there. The first shot people didnt know what it was. They thought a car backfiring, a firework. When did you realize what was happening . As soon as the second shot happened. The second was the same as the first. You know the sound of a weapon when you hear it. Military experience. Thats right. Right then it was real. Where were you . I understand the shooter was near third base. He was behind thankfully, he was on the outside of the chainlink fence. Which was locked. Behind the third base dugout. I was next to the batting cage. We couldnt see him. After that second shot, several of us standing there began to make a beeline in a low crawl towards behind the dugout on the First Base Side to stay out of the line of fire. Congressman, when did you where were you . I was close to home plate. I had just come in from the batting cages to take some live pitching. I was putting on a batting helmet when i heard the first shot. I recognized that as a gunshot. But you are in a situation you are not sure. I distinctively turned and looked to my right where scalises security detail were in the suv by the dugout. They park there so they have a clear view of the field. I saw them exiting the vehicle. They had concerned looks on their face. Heard the second shot it was that quick in. They came out. There was a long pause after the first shot. He was took the first shot and then moved up. When the second shot, as the general said, came you knew it was going down at that point. One of the members i think trent kelly from mississippi yelled, he has a gun. Thats when we all started running. I ran outside i went outside the fence. I didnt want to get trapped in the dugout. There was a lot of people in there. As i was going out the fence, shots hit to my left and hit the fence as i was going through. You could actually see shots . The ground was you could see the dust flying up off the ground where bullets would hit. I went around luckily, a utility shed, to put it between me and the shooter. I was about 20 feet from the security details suv. They repositioned the suv. Thats when i saw matt mika. He was laying on the ground. He was severely wounded, shot in the chest. Myself and one other individual tried to get to him. The shooter had moved in position and had us in a line of fire. Every time we tried to go out there, he would take shots. No kidding . How long about hard to tell in a situation like this. I heard that video runs for about 5 00, 5 30. How long do you think this went on for . Average, six minutes, plus or minus. That video we saw it this afternoon. It captures a lot. Were you able at any point to see the gunman . The only time i saw him was after he was secured by the Capitol Police. After it was over, i walked around and checked wounded and checked to see where he was. You went over to representative scalise . I did. How was he . He was as you would expect in shock. Congressman winstrup was in charge. He was applying the compression to the entrance wound. We were getting scalises belt out of his pants in case we needed to use a tourniquet. Senator jeff black was there as well. People kept moving around tending to the wounded. You knew did you see the shooter while i did. I saw him reposition a couple of times. Then i lost track of him. The gentleman that was with me was tracking him. I was talking to matt mika, trying to get talk to him. We couldnt get to him. You were yelling out to him . He was 10 feet in front of me. The Capitol Police, he was next to their vehicle. They couldnt do anything because they were engaged in the fire fight. They were heros. I saw the first officer get shot in the ankle. She went down. She was out of the fire fight. Thats when the other officer actually ran into the parking lot to draw fire away from us. Is that right . Very heroic action. I saw him take i thought he got shot in the leg. Sounds like he just got some shrapnel in the leg. He was wounded. Thats when i got concerned. If he went down, there was nothing else to do. We were trying to figure out, could we get her weapon. As i repositioned myself at that point behind a tree where i could get a better vantage point, thats when i saw the shooter come from the other side of the building, he was getting covered by, and he was brandishing a handgun. Did he seem calm . Calm, collected. He walked out there, pointed it at the Police Officers. He took a shot. The Capitol Police officer told him to drop the weapon, drop the weapon. Alexander Police Officers were telling him he had taken a couple of shots at them with a rifle. Fortunately, missed. He shot a couple more times at the Capitol Police officer. Thats when the Police Officers took him down. I saw him go down at that point. He was taken to the hospital. We understand thats where he expired. What did you do after he was down . As soon as he was we werent sure if there was another shooter or not. I ran up to where the Capitol Police officer that was shot and matt was laying checked on matt. He was in really bad condition. He had bled a lot. I could see the chest wound. I looked at her. I could tell you could see her ankle was shot pretty bad. She wasnt critical. I asked if they had a medical kit. She said they had one in the back. I got the medical kit. I was looking for something, clot stopper for matt. Emts who had been they were up on the street and unable to get down there because of the fire. They were there for matt. I let them take over. I didnt know scalise had been hit until somebody told me that steve was on the field hit. I saw Brad Winstrup out there. I ran the medical kit out to brad. Gave it to him. Then when i turned, the security the detail for scalise who shot the perpetrator was out there with scalise. Limping and so this guy is a true hero. Just incredible. Does something need to change . What do you moving for . To me, i just something needs to change. Theres a lot that needs to change. For example, the idea of civility at all levels of discourse needs to be brought to the forefront. Were you aware the freshman class, both democrats and republicans, three weeks after being sworn in that we signed a commitment to civility that never saw the light of day in the news because it wasnt a big enough story . Theres a lot of people who want change. We need top cover from folks to get the examples of how it can be done out there because we have to move forward as a nation together. It does seem like you talk to people who served 20, 30 years ago on capitol hill and there was not just the media but everywhere people could have good people could have difference of opinions and battle hard in terms thats a good thing. You get a better result when you come at it from different angles. How important is it the ball game goes on tomorrow . How important is that a lot of people come out . Its extremely important. If this was a recreational game between us i would say we need to step down. This is for children. This is a charity game for children. Everybody is going to survive, even matt mika from what i hear. I got a call a little while ago that said he is going to be doing all right. Everybody is going to recover. Its going to take a while for some. I think we need to go out there. I think we need to play hard. We always play respectfully. Something about sports brings us together. We set our differences aside. We need to raise money for the kids and show our support for one another as americans. How great would it be to have that stadium filled . Its a strong statement across the country if we can do so. Everybody come out tomorrow. We will be there. Thank you very much. Thanks, anderson. Sorry its under these circumstances. More ahead on what happened this morning. An extremely difficult day. Well be right back. Dental professionals recommend using an electric toothbrush. For an exceptionally fresh feeling choose Philips Sonicare diamondclean. Hear the difference versus oral b. In a recently published clinical study, Philips Sonicare diamondclean outperforms oralb 7000, removing up to 82 more plaque and improving gum health up to 70 more. Its Sonic Technology cleaning deep between teeth. From the most recommended sonic toothbrush brand by dental professionals. Switch to Philips Sonicare today. Philips sonicare. Save when you buy now. There are the wildcats til we die weekenders. 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The white house is referring us to the president s outside counsel. A spokesman did put out a statement. I believe we have it. We can put it on the screen. It says, the fbi leak of information regarding the president is outrageous. Inexcusable, and illegal. A couple of things to point out about this statement. One is, it talks about an fbi leak of information. We dont know for a fact that it was the fbi that is leaking this information. Also, what i think is interesting about this statement is that it doesnt deny that the president is now under investigation by the special counsel bob mueller for obstruction of justice. It is a statement that is curious. As it is brief. It is obviously something that the press is going to be asking White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer about this tomorrow, if the White House Holds a briefing. We dont have a schedule whats going to happen tomorrow. Thats all they are saying tonight. Jim acosta appreciate that. Jeff toobin, should point out, just because there is an investigation by Robert Mueller on the possibility of obstruction of justice doesnt mean the president did try to obstruct justice. Thats up to mueller to discover in the course of the investigation. Given the fact there is an investigation of the president , how big a deal is it . Its a huge deal. The president of the United States is under criminal investigation by a special prosecutor who has hired the best lawyers in the country, is working with the unlimited resources of the fbi. Its a nightmare for anyone to be investigated by the fbi and the justice department. Its particularly a nightmare for the president of the United States. It doesnt mean that the president committed a crime. It doesnt mean that the president will be charged with a crime. As we saw during comeys testimony last week, there is certainly at least a plausible case, a basis for investigation, that trump made overturns to comey to crush an investigation of his friend, general flynn, and then when comey didnt do that, he fired comey. That is a plausible case for obstruction of justice. There are surrounding circumstances, including admiral rogers and director of National Intelligence coates who were also approached by the president. They need to provide evidence as well. This is all going to happen. The president even if the president attempts to cite executive privilege to get them not to talk to mueller, mueller can counteract that, cant he . He can. He has broad discretion in all the powers of the federal bureau of investigation, the department of justice. Remember one thing. Obstruction of justice is a specific intent crime. You cant just jim comey who is a witness to this didnt believe that from february until he was fired that the president had obstructed justice in interactions with him because he could have opened his own file. It seems curious that this has been leaked and the other thing i might point out is the white house, all they have to do is call up director mueller or acting attorney general for this specific investigation Rod Rosenstein and ask is the president a target or subject of an investigation. They have to answer that question. Why would they want to know that . Why would they i think at this point this time the fbi or director mueller need to confirm or deny this. This innuendo of an investigation of a sitting president that no one can seem to confirm is very dangerous for our

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