Money charges against Paul Manafort but a surprise revelation, George Pep Adopt Lus pleaded guilty earlier this month making a false statements to the fbi. His emails related to the arrest came out today, couple of things we did not know until now. They provided key points along a time line that Robert Mueller could possibly build a case that Team Trump Colluded with russia to win the election. Ood suggestion that george may have been wearing a wire. We have correspondents covering all the angels tonight. We begun with manu raju on george. What have you been learning . Thats true joining the campaign in march 15, george had a meeting with a london base
professor who he promised dirgt on Hillary Clintons campaign. He had multiple interactions with this professor. This professor came in around the same time that John Pa December that, Hillary Clintons former campaign manager, his emails were hacked. We do know that george lied to federal prosecutors and admitted to lying about these interactions with with this london based professors and other russian contacts. And in these documents that were sealed today, anderson, turns out this contact was not the only one, there were several others. Judgeorge admitted he lied t several authorities when he said contact with the professor occurred before joining the Trump Campaign. He also falsely told authorities that the professor was quote, just a guy talking up connections or something. When in fact, george knew the
professor has connections to the kremlin and repeatedly sought to arrange a meets. George also doubt t conflicts he had with a female national when she also had ties to the russians that george pitched to the campaign as part of an effort that trump meet with Vladimir Putin in russia. The woman was also described as putins niece. In march, when he met with the woman and professor in london they talked about setting up a meeting. They said the leadership, including putin is ready to meet with us and mr. Trump should there be interest. George wrote, as we continue working to arrange a meeting the highest and senior aid rick gaits emailing to say, quote, we need someone to communicate that dt is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level
in the campaign so as not to send any signals. And then in may, joj forded emails he wrote to russian up dates in which he said, russia has been eager to meet with mr. Trump for quite sometime and has been reaching out to me to discuss. But in july, 2016, george says a meeting with senior Trump Officials with putin aids, quote, has been approved from our side. George was arrested july 27 and had pled guilty for knowingly and willfully making false statement. And where is he now . We simply dont know the answer to that. Cnn has tried to reach out to him on multiple occasions. We have been unsuccessful if doing so. The house and Intelligent Committee have tried to bring him in for interviews and they have failed as well. His attorney did issue a statement earlier saying george will not have any further comment, probably some of his story would come out through the course of the campaign. And anderson, even though the
white house downplayed his role in the company, he graduated in 2009, got a Masters Degree in london afterwards. The president singled him out in a Washington Post interview called him an excellent guy. Manu, its also important to point out, after he was arrested and admitted he had lied, he cooperated with the fbi right if. Yeah, and that could be significant. We dont know how significant quite yet. The fact he is cooperating with the fbi could signal there was a lot more to this investigation Going Forward. We dont know the extent of his context. Everybody in the trump universe, we tried a number of occasions to reach out to the highest level to the Trump Campaign and also got some responses. His involvement may be more extensive than we know right
now. Okay, rick gates, and pamela brown. What are the obligations against these two . Trump indictment between the two men wasnt sealed today. The counts include a conspiracy against United States, conspiracy to launder money and seven counts of failure to file reports, a foreign bank and financial account. These two mens is alleged to have been taking tens of millions of dollars from the ukraine while acting as agents for the country and hiding that money in offshore accounts to wash it. And they lied about it. They used this money from the accounts to pay for money, mortgaging, clothes, homes, decorating, their children ea easts tuition. The fbi says they were engaged in these activities from 2008 to
2017. So while they were involved in the captain, anderson. Has manafort says anything . Didnt say anything but his attorney spoke outside the building to reporters and said these charges are baseless. Take a listen. President donald trump was correct, there is no evidence. Mr. Manafort on the Trump Campaign colluded with the russian government. Again, in this indictment there is no mention of possible collusion with the russians. Manafort and gates pleaded not not guilty. The bail was set for manafort and gates and both put on house arrest. And want gates . His spokesman released a statement saying he wont comment until he reviewed the indictment. His spokesperson said the
time. That was this afternoon. Right now were learning about what wen on behind the closed doors of the white. Cnns jeff zeleny. Do we know how the president reacted after he heard about these indictments . We go. We know he spend hours in the residence watching this unfold on television. Im told he was seething at these reports. They said as he was watching this, he was expecting some kind of indictment on manafort, but this george thing surprised him entirely. He was watching this for hours. He did not arrive in the oval office for meetings until around noon or 12 30 or so. Entirely different and the white house was trying to portray it down below when they were saying look, this is not connected to the campaign at all. And as far as sanders saying volunteer over and over, Paul Mand Ford was a volunteer as well. Each and every one of these people on the campaign is in a voluntary capacity so that doesnt mean much. What is the white house strategy for dealing with mueller and the investigation Going Forward . We found out after talking to a lot of people there is a tug of war going on here if you will. There was one side of thinking the president legal advisors saying he should not go after bob and mueller. If he wants to make some attacks at the investigation he can but not directly at bob mueller. There was another side, steve bannon, he believes that the president s legal team has been too soft and misguided here. He does believe the president should go after bob mueller in an attempt to, you know, simply throw all this Up In The Air here. There is an internal discussion. So far, the president has not for a while gone after the Special Counsel here, well see if he does in the coming days. Anderson, all this a major
distraction, as this week was supposed to be this time to talk about a tax reform plan. Of course hes leaving friday for a foreign trip as well. This of course so front and center tonight. Yeah, the president was actually watching t. V. For hours, you said didnt go to work until about 12 00 or 12 30. So the george side of this, this came as a surprise . It did. I was told by several people he was not expecting this. Most people around washington wasnt expecting this either. He pleaded guilty almost a month ago but this was something sealed and continue comfortable. That was one of the confidential here. So that was a prize today. No one know who he spoke to several weeks ago. It does seem the number of people, those five people or so i think it was who was famed to the president s foreign advisory person later on in the campaign. It was time when the candidate trump was under pressure because of a lot of experienced people had said they would not work for President Trump. So, he needed to name names and thats wen he came up with kaurter paige, and george and others. There are questions about how closely linked they were to the campaign. It seems like with george, according to these charges, he was getting his emails returned from manafort and others. Sure, he was trying to do something, trying to set up a meeting. Back in march 2016, donald trump was trying to quince people here in washington and elsewhere he was a real candidate. He said look, i got these flielgt advisors, and they werent advisers working on the campaign, so its unclear how much work was going on at the time. The president was holding them up as examples of the fact he was about advised here. The question here is, it was a
very small operation, and he was getting emails returned at the time. There were no meeting of course. How many otheres are out there, well find out as this investigation continues. Jeff thank you very much. David gurgan joins us now. How serious do you think todays developments were . Serious, very serious. What we have now know is that the government is charging that an unregistered Foreign Agent to russian stew justice was Campaign Chairman for President Trump. Not for very long but an important period of time. And that contrary to assurances for the president that there had been no conversations with the russians, this campaign had nothing to do with the russians, we now know at least one person who was recognized as a National Security adviser by the campaign, who attended meetings
with the president was in active conversations with the concerns. What this suggests is that bob mueller has this young National Security adviser. George. George, hes now singing. Hes now giving evidence of higher ups and thats how he got a plea bargain today and pled gilt. I think this is serious. Whats interesting about george, the development is the exchange he had with this professor who had ties to the kremlin who said they had dirt on Hillary Clinton, that predates by month the donald trump jr. Meeting. And that predates in this donald trump jr. Meeting what the professor was saying to george. Yeah, thats right. That was a clear desire on the part of people and Trump Campaign to get the dirt, what ever it was, whether emails or something they might get from the russians, they clearly wanted to do it even throe they avoided setting up a big meeting with the russians, they wanted to send signals back. We also know from the indictments that were returned, and the plea bargain thats been made here by george, that george was reporting to others, unnamed others but they are singled out in the Plea Agreement. There was two people higher up in the campaign and one senior National Security adviser, we dont know who that is. But the finger seems to point perhaps to flynn. This is both george and donald trump jr. Entertaining
this notion of getting dirt yes. With the belief it was from the russian government. Thats what donald trump jr. Was told in those emails and then george who lied to the fbi yeah thats a very clear point. Its clear they were responding two signals from the russian op tifrs saying, we got some stuff do you want to talk to us, and yes, we do want you stuff. Now what we dont know is whether these conversations led anywhere and did it actually lead to cooperation with the russians in terms of the meddling, thats still unclear. We know thats where mueller is hoping or at least hes going to investigate that to find out what happened. One last thing anderson, weve also been told by the Washington Post is that facebook is going to testify tomorrow that the russian based, and russian sourced materials
put out in the captain, meddling in the campaign may have reached as many as 126 million americans. Thats about the number that voted. Yeah, cnn has confirmed that. David can you put this in some perspective in terms of scandals in white houses and Scandal Investigations in white houses . Well, this is not water gate, were not at a point where the president of the United States is about to be shoved judicially or politically. What we do now is that we now for the first time, because it happens rarely, have Criminal Investigation, which is creeping into people close to the president or high up in his campaign and may well reach in among the people who have worked in the white house. We havent seen that since the nixon days. Again, i stress this is not water gate. But when you have criminal charges against people who are close to the president , thats very rare. David gurgan were going to talk tow later in the program. Coming up next our panel weighs in. And given the president s mood well explore the nuclear option, firing Robert Mueller and the fall out that may bring. D your retirement score. So, that goal youve been saving for, you can do it. We can do this . We can do this. At fidelity, our online Planning Tools are clear and straightforward so you can plan for retirement while saving for the things you want to do today. Nana, lets do this aye aye, captain and as you go through life whoo tryin to reach your goal and as Casual Fridays Life at Buckingham Palace . Alright, off you go. Surprising. Whats not surprising . How much money nathan saved by switching to geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Tmobiles unlimited now includes netflix on us. Thats right. Netflix on us. Get 4 unlimited lines for just 40 bucks each. Taxes and fees included. And now netflix included. So go ahead. Binge on us. Another reason why tmobile is americas best unlimited network. Having moderate to seis not always easy. Is
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campaign and the russian government to get together, including talking about thousands of emails. We dont know if they are the same thousands of emails but there were thousands of Hillary Clinton emails that were later released. And any involvement of the Trump Campaign in the release of those emails could be the basis for a very serious charge. We also now know this information has been unsealed in a july motion from the Special Counsel. I just want to read it. Public disclosure of the defendants initial appears could significantly serve as a proactive corporate cooperator. That means wearing a wire to me. What a blockbuster possible piece of development that is. Because he was arrested in july, he pled guilty in october. That period of july to october,
just i mean just weeks ago, he was in a position to proactively cooperate, meaning, wear a wire, get admissions from people who were perhaps still serving. The question would be how connected was he, could he get liz phone calls and emails returned when he was part over the campaign. But when you look through th