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allegations came to light from two exwives. The white house spun the account of what they knew that was inaccurate. Then the parkland tragedy pushed it out of the headlines until general kelly brought it back today revisiting his handling in the scandal, according to cnn left white house staffers stunned, puzzled, or saying that general kelly is not telling the truth. He said he learned of, quote, a Series Accusation of Porter On February 6th when the daily mail began asking the white house for the reaction to the story they were about to run. This was early that evening. Kelly then said, quote, we pout a statement of support for him and hour later found out theres a second report. They stuck with that through the following day even though they knew who the daily mail. Com about the allegations of physical abuse by both women. Here is jenny willoghby described it. Perhaps the first and only physical abuse i suffered. After an argument we were yelling had become the norm in our marriage, and i removed myself from the situation to take a shower. To cool down. Disengage from the situation. He came to the shower and opened the door and pulled me out to continue yelling at me. He put his hands on you and continued yelling at you . Yeah. Was that a startling moment for you . I think up until that moment, i didnt realize that i was in an abusive marriage. I think that sounds almost
ridiculous coming out of my mouth given how i can speak about it and remember things now, but i dont know it was until that moment that i realized i was with a man who was capable of Something Like that. Keeping it modest. Our reporting is that general kelly and two others were told in november of last year about Domestici Domestic Issues and the fbi Background Check was last july. Porter never got a full clearance. We talked about that with jenny as well as the importance of credible allegations being taken seriously. The white house wont answer what general kelly knew when he knew it. To what extent he knew about the reports, the allegations that both of you had made. Theres a new statement out from general kelly he said he was shocked by the new allegations and theres no place for domestic violence. Is it important to you that somebody like general kelly believes your story . Its important to me in general that anyone who is coming forward with the story like that is believed upfront. That its not on the burden of proof for me or anyone else to justify the claims. And that the conversation around abuse or assault or even missong any in general doesnt turn, well, hes really great could it be shes exaggerating or not telling the truth or its not as bad as theyre making it out to be. Because theres very little evidence that any woman would bring that kind of scrutiny upon themselves to share these types of details. I didnt ask for this. I wouldnt never have shared these types of details as publicly if the media hadnt come to me with this moment to do that. Jenny put out a statement late
i told them that dailymail. Com determined that porter had grabbed his wife by the shoulders and yanked her out of the shower naked. We told them the date that happened. I explained how we were going to report at dailymail. Com he punched the window out on their front door when she threatened to call the police because he was violating the Separation Agreement by being in the apartment. We told them about the temporary Restraining Order she filed. That she was walking on egg shells throughout her honey hoon. Honeymoon. Even she miscarried a pregnancy of six weeks because of the stress of being around porter. The idea that consisted of Emotional Abuse doesnt trap. There was physical abuse there. And one other correction, anderson. We didnt tell the white house about the first wife until the next morning. The idea that john kelly heard an hour after i came into saras
office. That no makes sense to me. Daily mail. Com is doing the reporting. I didnt tell them about the second story until the following morning. Just to be clear, theres no way they could have misunderstood what you were sharing with them. I mean, you mentioned not only the yanking out of the shower, but also the fact there had been an order of protection that had been filed. Right. Yeah. And sara, you know, to her credit, took notes during the meeting. I think she had a clear idea of what was going on. What is curious to me is the evolution of the statements from john kelly. At 7 00 when we were ready to pull the trigger on the story, they sent, you know, me an email and i forwarded it to my editor and we ran this with john kellys glowing statement. And a denial from porter. By the next day, after we had run the second story with the black eye photo, sara still read that same glowing statement from
john kelly at the podium in the Briefing Roof before announcing he resigned. This is all curious. And, you know, general kelly is saying that porter resigned his job to him that tuesday before the first story ran. But the story that we ran carried a statement from him saying in the present tense that im proud to work with him. Right. I noticed that. Implying he was still working there. It was in the present tense. When Chief Of Staff kelly today said he had been told about socalled Emotional Abuse. Does that make any sense . Not unless Sara Huckabee sanders was keeping facts from john kelly. This is career suicide. This is a man who worked for john kelly. We know from our reporting and you confirmed it, as well, at cnn. That the fbi gave kelly a deep dive into Rob Porter In November of last year. We know from what chris ray said on the hill that both of the exwives had spoken to the fbi about this earlier in 2017. Didnt know about the physical abuse. That doesnt make sense. Right. I mean, your last point gets to the question. If daily mail. Com hadnt done this reporting, would this the actions, you know, have been taken that were taken . Unyou dont know the answer. Its hard to know. All we know is by the next day they were supporting him from the podium. And it took general kelly, i think, about 14 hours after we ran the story with the black eye photos for him to issue a second statement and condemn domestic abuse. And the day after that, the president was saying in the oval office that rob porter was the one. Lets get perspective on this now joining us this former Trump White House lawyer drew schultz and kristy quinn and president of women in need. And former colleague of general
kellys. He survived this. Hes voluntarily waded back into it. Yeah. I dont get why he raised it again today for the pr political perspective why he would go out of his way today to raise this again. I think you accurately stated that earlier. And i also think its undisputable. Theres holes and discrepancies in the story. No question. Christine, do you belief the Chief Of Staff has credibility when it cops to what he knew about rob porter and when . There seems like there have been so many stories from the white house and kelly. Theres no credibility left here. Weve seen everything hes laid out today just be refuted and every time line and day just over and over has proved to be incorrect. I think the question everyone asks is why did general Kelly Rebring this up tonight . And, you know, the only really thing i can think of is that he just doesnt think its that series. He doesnt think its a topic
he did acknowledge the issue that this was not their finest hour. No question. I think he was talking about the white house staff in general, though. General, this would be a problem for any Chief Of Staff. But for a general who brought in to instill order and better standards and make the trains an run on time in the west wing. Im wondering how to reflects on his judgment and leadership. Anderson, what i would say, first of all, you cant excuse what happened in the situation. You can attempt to explain it. Thats what john kelly was attempting to do today. What ill tell you is guys like kelly reach the senior levels of leadership and the military. We have a lot of cases that come to us from either our staff, Judge Advocate or Chief Of Staff saying we got an individual in the command who has done this. You know even if its someone close to you, which i had experience with, you stop saying anything about that individual until you get the full facts. Its the old, you know, first
reports are always wrong. They may be but you better check it out. Ive been listening to the guests tonight and theyve been talking about this as it was an isolated incident in terms of what was going on. Remember, you know, john kelly is a marine. He wants to instill discipline and processes and systems to the white house. And it is a dysfunctional organization with a lot of brief floating electrons. In is probably about a million things hes handling. Its the most complexing and unbelievably difficult problems hes trying to handle. So, again, thats not an excuse but its one of the things where, you know, as a military guy, you had a Staff Security officer, the White House Security office. You say get those Security Clearances done. Fix them or tell me what is wrong. In this case, i think there was a tell in john kellys Statement Today to the press when he said i had multiple Spread Sheets of people without Security Clearances. That tells me hes probably pulling his hair out because
hes got so many problems to with. This is just another one while hes trying to help with daca, tax reform, gays in the military and Everything Else that the president is tweeting about or driving in terms of what hes doing as the Chief Of Staff. So we cant look at this as a vacuum. Its inexcusable. Dont get me wrong. You can try to explain it by so many things on the plate. I dont understand why he went out today and brought an old story into the news. Thats not smart. Anderson the president did the right thing here. In putting john kelly in charge. And i think thats worth noting here. The white house is getting on the right track as it pertains to Security Clearances and reforming the process going forward. Yeah. If it its one of a million things in charge of. When youre a Chief Of Staff used to military operations. Youre used to the organization doing routine things. Routinely. The white house hasnt shown that yet. It you tell me john kelly, the Chief Of Staff of the white house is in charge of Security Clearances, he may be overwatching them and demanding they get fixed, but im concerned about why it took so long to get status and updates when he seemed to have known what the problems were. Right. And thats the question. And with all due respect to the general, i think you probably perfectly described being Chief Of Staff in the white house. But thats the job that the general signed up for. And thats the job he has to do. Clearly he isnt doing it to the standard of having all those balls in the air and taking care of important things. The way the American People need them taken care of, like domestic abuse. I appreciate it. Coming up next, new
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