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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 June 2, 2018 00:00:00

As he goes into it. However when you contrast it to what the president has said up to tonight. Here is how the administration has been describing its goal for the singapore talks. North korea has the opportunity to end decades of poverty and oppression by following the path of denuclearization. The conversation is going to be focused on denuclearization in the peninsula. The goal and the purpose of the conversations is to have denuclearization of the peninsula. The denuclearization of the korean peninsula. The president has laid out to what he wants to see as a commitment to denuclearization. I will be meeting with kim jongun in the coming weeks as we seek to denuclearize the area and the entire korean peninsula. The stated goal and now, not so much. I think it is a gettingtoknowyou meeting plus. There is another one. Whatever else you might think of the summit, that sounds like a different agenda. Human rights might not be on the agenda either. Here is the president talking about todays meeting. We did not talk about human rights. Do you expect to talk about it . Could be. We did not talk about human rights the answer is could be, probably will. That was criticized by many. As the president preemptively deferring quote, hundreds of sanctions. Only saying again, quoting here, why would i do that when we are talking so nicely. The envoy from the norths original mission as you saw moments ago is to submit the letter to his boss. Which he did, it is not clear whether the president read the letter. First he indicated he did, and then he said he didnt. This was a meeting to where a letter was given to me by kim jongun. And that letter was a nice letter. Oh, would you like to see what is in that letter . How much. How much . Can you give us a flavor. It was an interesting letter. At some point it may be appropriate, i may be able to give it to you, and maybe fairly soon. He seems to have read the letter, what he said next, maybe the size of it. I didnt open it. I havent opened it in front of the director. You can decide for yourself what that means. Jim acosta is there for us tonight. Do you know anything about what was in the letter . Reporter we dont know exactly what was in the letter, but the White House Press secretary Sarah Sanders said the president did read the letter before he left for the weekend. One of the steps on the path to the summit in singapore. It is not what is in that giant letter, as what is in the deal in what you heard the president say earlier today, it is no longer a summit about denuclearization, it is about a getting to know you session plus. And very interestingly he said to reporters, no longer is this a maximum pressure campaign. Repeatedly, that they are applying a maximum pressure on the campaign. But that he is not going to consider new ones. And the big question about the up coming summit is this is going to be a coin without currency. It was just last thursday that the president canceled the summit. Given the kind of planning that normally goes into Something Like this that now it is back on. That is right. And we have been hearing from officials. This felt like in that officials were heading over to singapore to work on logistics. You saw mike pompeo in a meeting with the top lieutenant to kim jongun. It seems like they were keeping all of the wheels in motion for the summit with exception of any kinds of demands, some hard concessions before sitting down at the table. That is why you heard Mitch Mcconnell saying today, and i think it is an can kpoextraordi comment. For reality tv moment and nothing much more. We are joined by jim sciutto. It is striking to see what appears to be a shift and certainly tone from the president in terms of what this meeting is about and any kind of a time line for denucle denuclearization. What you had in the last 24 hours is really a complete redefining of expectations that were set by this president himself. One, on what this meeting would be about today for the first time he said it is really just a gettoknowyou meeting. That is not abnormal. Keep in mind the iranian Nuclearizations Cook two years. So that is typical. But this president given the strong impression that there would be more, more crucially is a redefining of the white houses own expectations prior to the meeting. White house officials said that the u. S. Wanted some grand gesture to demonstrate how serious north korea is about this. We dont know what that gesture is. And on the issue of denuclearization, he said today he thinks they want to denu denuclearization. That is not a commitment before you go into these talks. Obviously a summit with a sitting u. S. President is something that the north koreans have wanted for a long time. It gives kim jongun a legitimacy that he has craved and his father before him. So now it is a simple getting to know you meeting has the north already received and gotten out of the meeting than the u. S. Has gotten. They certainly have gotten something. This is something that north korean leaders, kim, his father, and his grandfather have wanted for years to demonstrate their stature in the world. And sitting across from the u. S. President , arguably the most powerful person in the world is a give. It is a concession you would expect something in return and it is not clear that the u. S. Got anything in return. And that meeting in the white house today in itself is something, i dont want to say a gift. But top spy there standing there in the oval office. It remains to be seen what the u. S. Is going to get back in return. I want to bring in former north korean analyst for the cia. And max boots. Dr. Terry, do you see a shift in how the u. S. Is describing what this meeting is about, from total denuclearization to just getting to know you plus . Absolutely. President trump is walking away from. They have always been talking about denuclearization of the korean peninsula. Which of course has alliance implications. Our true presence in south korea and extended nuclear umbrella. It is very unclear from this meeting that kim jongun had with pompeo. It is different what they are going to put denuclearization on the table as we define it. And max, even if that is on the table for the summit, there is no way, i mean, it is realistic for the president to say it is getting to know you meeting, unrealistic to portray it was anything other than that until now. Working out specific details. And we just saw the leak of the c oochlt achia assessment t korea is not interested in giving up their weapons. President trump was tweeting they have agreed to denuclearization, did he know something that we didnt know . And clearly he didnt. He was making it up. He hyped it up and now it came crashing down a few weeks ago. So it has the appearance of a summit. And why are we giving the leader of north korea opportunity to legitimize himself. And the sanctions are basically collapsing because of the concessions that we already are basically making in order to bring kim jongun to the table. It seems like north korea has already, i dont know if won is the word. North korea has gained a lot for the past few months with the summit and the diplomacy and kim jongun is played his cards very well. As you said, political will to implement sanction is loosening particularly on the chinese front. And that is going to continue. So this maximum pressure that we are going to do is going to be hard, right . And then the whole talk of this military strike, it is impossible for us to get back to that particularly if north korea does not continue with further provocation. I dont think they will because kim jongun is smart about this. How are we going to get back to maximum pressure. Kim jongun is doing well even without that message. Trump reminds me of churchills line he is either at your throat or at your feet. And now he is swung to the other stream saying he is open and honorable and we are going to do a great deal together. I am uncomfortable that trump is doing this grin and grip photo op. He is in charge of a gulag where people are in prison. All of the abuses in north korea. And now he is rushing to embrace kim jongun and he has got to find a happy medium. He cant swing from hostility to excessive flattery on the one hand. It is remarkable for the president to say, why would we be putting in sanctions because they are being nice to us right now. And to say there is no discussion of human rights is remarkable. This is a man who has been guilty of hor rbi humrible huma. So it is remarkable not to bring these things up at least in the conversation. But another point here too, it was interesting to hear Mitch Mcconnell of course a Republican Senate Majority Leader warn the president , Dont Get Snookered by north korea. A lot of players here that have agendas. China may be weakening sanctions on north korea so that sanctions by themselves dont get what the u. S. Wants and it is in fact force somewhat to get to the table. Making the point south korea is interested. Get to something formal end. Perhaps not on terms that are favorable to the United States. More than one party here that can snooker as Mitch Mcconnell says, the u. S. In these negotiations. Do you think the u. S. Has already been snookered. We already have. I am hoping something will come out of it. By i am not optimistic. Donald trump is, if you look at his record, he has made an awful lot of bad deals. Samantha bee and Roseanne Barr. Join tmobile. And get netflix included for the whole family. So you can get Lost In Space in your own backyard. 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At the same time the president was ripping disgraced senator al franken. Critics back then called it a Double Standard and selective outrageous. As you know the president has not only been accused by sexual impropriety. His defenders at the time called it locker talk. The president s own language makes signaling out someone else is somewhat problematic. Rosie odonnell is disgusting. Sleepy eye chuck todd. Or pocahontas. Maxine waters a low iq individual. A lot of others on twitter and video and elsewhere. The examples are many and varied. She wants to blame everyone else for mounting legal troubles but has really no one else to blame but herself. Hillary is the one who set up an illegal private email server to shield. Just a few days ago, it was revealed by politico that the president used a pair of nonsecure iphones and does not have them scanned for intrusions. The record is full of Double Standards and does anyone these days actually seem to care. 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Rosanne has a history of calling black women monkeys. That was the last straw. Samantha, as tasteless as it was, it was political commentary about helpless children. Who are the people they are representing when they say these tasteless words. And we are often in this false narrative. But to hold the president as the same standard as two comedians is strange and also the fact that we are expecting him to tweet about comedians when we have puerto rico, so we are in this strange moment that we are even having this commentary. That was your point. The president has a lot to do why should he weigh into the Roseanne Barr thing. Should he, does it, do you see it okay that he weighs in on samantha bee thing and the Roseanne Barr. No equivalency. Both horrible and racist in nature. And samantha bee was horrible and vile and different levels. Traditionally i would say the president did not need to weigh in on samantha bee. But i am never going to criticize a father for standing up for his daughter. I feel like we are chasing the wrong thing here. I feel like political opponents on both sides are looking for, i think people who are mad about what Roseanne Barr said, but political opponents are looking towards President Trump and want to pin it on him. I mean, the bottom of the line is people need to get their own acts together and treating people with more respect. And we are talking about the actual job of the presidency. And that is to go and create jobs and opportunity, for all backgrounds and all people in society. And not look at validation that the president is going to come in and give moral. It does Say Something about where we are in terms of the National Dialogue and conservatives have talked about the coarseness of the culture. Everybody is in their tribe or political camp and they see it through the lens of the politics and they excuse what samantha bee said. And that is natural. Tribalism is natural and this is unnatural that we are having this conversation in the context of the presidency and that the tweet would conflate so many things together like adding in commentary about a show. This is not normal and i think that we have to resist or i have to resist thinking that this is normal to talk about a president of the United States of america and his tweets about two comedians. That is not normal. It is interesting that he talked about ratings for both of them. And again, you have to consider who each person is representing when they say what they say. So Roseanne Barr and his core, he said this is about us. So of course he would weigh in on roseanne because he is talking for his people. Samantha, even though it was tasteless, in her mind speaking for immigrant children. So we have to look at the difference between who these people are speaking to and how they are using their language and their power. And words have power. But coming out of the president of the United States of america, the fact that you have that run down is extraordinary. So here is where i would disagree with you. And i would say i dont think what samantha bee said was some kind of commentary on a Public Policy matter. This was a very orchestrated, they wrote it up but it was connected to the immigrant. They loaded it into the prompter and that language to go towards the daughter of the president of the United States with that vile and foul of language, that was not an accident and that was not going to move the ball forward on immigration policy. That was specifically to tear down the president s daughter. And at the cultural side, here is what i get frustrated when i see the white house correspo Correspondence Dinner tearing down Sarah Sanders. From far too many where it is open season on the president , his supporters, anyone who works for him and anyone in his family. It has gone way too far and tasteless. And the standard that is being set here s, is if you criticize the president that would make sense if the president didnt say what he said about mexicans, immigrants, our private parts. The tone that he set from the moment he came down those escalators, you saw all the names he called people. So we cant talk about this in a regular context. Lets encourage everybody to take steps forward with their language, to be more positive with it rather than a point that you did this or you did that. We would be better off. Thanks very much. There is a chance that the roseanne show could continue without

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