Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20180621 : vimarsan

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20180621

Take responsibility for his role in anything. Something on full display today barring family separation. He deflected blame on to other president s dating back to eisenhower for a problem that he says only he has the courage to solve. This has been going on for 60 years, nobody has taken care of it. Nobody has had the political courage to take care of it. We are going to take care of t it has been going on for a long time. That is not true. His administration enacted the zero tolerance policy that caused the blow up. Cnn has learned todays executive order does not call for the reunioniting. Well, anderson, to put it bluntly, nothing is going to happen. Paint it painting it as this longTerm Solution is more of a stopgap. There i no language in the text of this executive order that says anything about these children who have been split up from these parents, these 2300 or so that we know of. They will not be immediately reuni reuni reunited with their families. They are not grandfathered in any way in this language that the president instructed today to keep these Families Together if they are detained while coming across the border. That doesnt apply to these people. The president is painting this as a longTerm Solution, but officials are essentially saying these kids who have been separated from their parents wont be immediately reunited. It will be up to the parents to find a way to be reunited with their children. But no language that reunites them with their families. The policy may resume in less than three weeks. This agreement that they cannot hold children longer than 20 days. Unless they go to court and this ruling is overturned, that is not going to change. And the officials recognize that today admitted as much saying essentially that after 20 days it could go back to what it was before the president signed this executive order. The president did not have to sign an executive order to put an end to the separation of these families on the border. That is the direct result of the policy that his attorney general enacted not that long ago. All he had to do was pick up the phone and call the attorney general to put an end to this. Instead our sources said he wants to be more decisive. Which is why he signed this executive order that frankly, anderson, seems to be a bandaid for this entire issue. Kaitlin thanks. Hundreds are being taken to places scattered across the country and in many cases far from their parents. Thr three airlines are asking the government not to put these kids on their flights. Jason carroll is there now. Any indication that they have been given guidance as to what happens to these kids now . Reporter in the shortterm what is going to happen is they are going to stay with their foster families, go home at night and come back to facilities like this one during the day. And in the longterm though, there is no answer, no plan in place in terms of what will happen to the 239 children and babies some as young as nine months old that are being housed here at this particular facility. Even to want, the deputy mayor of health and Human Services says her office has received no plan from the federal government in terms of what to do with these 239 children. This is a problem that is facing not just the children of the facilities here at this one in new york, but throughout the country. How did the kids there end up there. They crossed the southern border which is obviously nowhere near new york. Reporter right. If you listen to new york citys mayor, he brings up one example, a nineyearold, he calls him eddie from honduras. He says most of these kids came here by bus. Many arriving here with lice, bed bugs, chicken pocks. Some of the conditions he may have received in transit on the way here. Many of the children suffering from the mental anguish o being separated from their parents. Imagine the shock, anderson, this mayor had, shock and anger in finding out 239 children were here. He said his office, the city had no idea these children were even here. So you said they are in foster care and they go back at night and go back to the facility during the day or being housed at that facility . Reporter no, that is correct. They are housed here during the day. They have classes they receive care from social workers and go home with foster families that they have been placed with. That is how this facility here operates. There are several facilities like this one here in new york city. But i cant express enough the anger that the mayor had because he says the federal government, federal officials are not communicating with city officials that is why they found out today after this video came out showing some of these young girls being taken to the facility late at night. That is how the Mayors Office got wind some children are here and it is not just some. It is 239 children that are here. The federal government is telling facilities like this one not to share with them how much information they have about these children, the number of children that are here at this particular facility, this facility finally agreeing to cooperate. The anger this mayor had in finding out this many children were here right here his knows and they had no idea. The president acted today on two bills. The president didnt really need congress to act as he demonstrated today. That was quickly pushed aside by the breaking news. Joining me now with his take is bernie sanders. Senator sanders what is your reaction that the 2300 kids who have been separated from their parents will not be reunion yietyiereunionsited with them. There is almost nothing one could say. The idea of tearing little children from the arms of their parents and putting them into detention cages and then making a big deal about an executive order which may do absolutely nothing for these 2300 children is literally beyond belief. Trump once again has lied and he told the American People that this was a policy created by congress, could only be addressed by congress. He was lying of course it was a crisis that he created and attempted to address today. But he didnt go anywhere near far enough. So where we are right now is close to 2400 kids are still separated from their parents. There is no understanding, as your reporters have indicated when these children will be reuni reunited. Furthermore we have a situation where the Trump Administration now, their solution is to provide indefinite detention. I presume for the new people arrested they will be with their children in jail for an indefinite period of time because the Trump Administration wants to undo the flores settlement which focuses on the need of children and limits to 20 days. Bottom line to all of this is that this country needs fundamental and comprehensive Immigration Reform which deals with this, this issue, which deals with the daca crisis and which deals with the 10 Million People who are undocumented in this country right now. The president is saying he wanted a longer Term Solution and that is what he is holding out for. Blaming the democrats. Do you believe this executive order was anything other than a Public Relations bandaid . I say this often and i dont want to be misunderstood. You know, i dont need to be overly partisan, but we have a president who lies all of the time including on this issue. Just the other day, you correct me if i am wrong, he was saying i cant do anything about it. This is congressional action that was needed. That is not true. He created the crisis and he could end the crisis. So i think what has happened, is when you have millions of americans, my phone lines in burlington and here in washington are bouncing off the hook. People in vermont, and i know people all over this country cannot believe that the United States we are putting these kids into detention camps. There is outrage. You have laura bush talking about this action being eerily reminiscent. You have the pope speaking out on this issue. And leaders all over the world saying what is going on in the United States. Trump had to respond to this. Clearly he sees from his political perspective of being anti immigrant is a winner for him politically. I dont think that is. But that is his logic and he will continue to mount a strong anti immigrant effort. In the midst of all of this stuff, so we dont get distracted, we have the leadership in the house talking now after giving a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top 1 coming up with a budget that would make massive cuts to social security, medicare and medicaid. You talked about the flores settlement which limits how long kids can be in detention to 20 days. Is it clear to you, the administration clearly wants to reverse that in the courts. It is not clear they will be able to do that. If they are not able to change that ruling, is it clear to you what happens. Do the separations resume. If the court says no, the flores settlement remains, do they go back to separating them . You are asking a good question in which nobody knows the answer. What you are suggesting is as i understand, if the parents remain in prison, the kids cannot be held more than 20 days. You are asking what can happen to those kids. I dont think anybody knows the answer. It may well mean those kid the may be separated from their parents. And here is the absurdity. I think we have a mechanism now to keep track of those families to make sure they get to court when they should get to court and you can do that for much lower cost to the taxpayers than imprisoni imprisoning parents and children. You are talking about ankle monitoring. Other ways that is in fact a lot cheaper. The bottom line of this thing, i want everybody to appreciate the trauma. I expect permanent psychological trauma to a child three or four, who cant speak english. My god, you dont have to be a child psychologist to know what the damage has been done. Will trump release the parents with the children or will he keep them separated . In terms of what is happening in congress, where the administration insists on placing responsibility. Republicans are actually divided on. More narrow republican bill in the senate. Have you seen any piece of legislation that you can report. There are two pieces of legislation and one is bad and one is worse. And here is the irony. The American People overwhelming want comprehensive american reform. The American People want differing opinions. But a majority of the American People believe we should have comprehensive Immigration Reform and a ph towards citizen. We are not getting report from the president who sees anti immigration as a good strategy for him. Clearly he felt you know, he didnt get the funding he wanted earlier and there were obviously concerns raised by some supporters that he was looking weak on illegal immigration. Maybe. More importantly you have a president that was giving tax breaks to billionaires who want to cut programs that working people need. If you could foment anger against immigrant and show how strong you are in those little children, it will get you votes. I think ultimately that is his strategy. I appreciate your time. Thank you. Ahead two legal views, professor Alan Dershowitz. 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He likes to talk about his accomplishments and the competent. And the executive order that he signed today, it created the biggest consternation. He summed it up in one sentence, saying i signed an executive order to keep Families Together but the borders would remain as tough as ever. And he changed the subject. I can tell you after we have done reporting throughout the day, one of the things that pushed him the post to change his mind was that he was losing the loyal support of his most loyal allies like orrin hatch. So the combination of that as well as the images that ivanka trump and Melania Trump talked to him about that urged him to change his minds. Thank you very much. President trump said his signing of the executive order didnt mean an end to his administrations zero tolerance policy. With me is rick wilson strategist not a trump supporter. I think what we have seen here is one of the greatest political defeats of the president. This was done in a panic. It is a bet he lost. He lost it badly. And he got beaten like a rented mule by these images of these kids being separated from their parents and he signed this in a panic today. The text of it even, the first paragraph of it or first section of it was this whine about donald trump being wrong here. This is something he did in a quick, panicked moment. He convinced himself that it was going to be a big political winner and it is a big political sti stinker. The president couldnt just pick up the phone and reverse the policy. But then all of a sudden, the president signs this executive order and seems to do just that. Something he has been contemplating for so long. Wait. That is not true. This was sold early on, i mean general kelly was talking about this when he was head of Homeland Security more than a year ago that this was going to be a deterrent, the taking of kid the from their parents. It should be a deternrent. I wouldnt put my child in harms risk. The fact that these parents are putting these children at risk. However, the president saying from the beginning, it is unfortunate and he didnt like parents separated from the children. Crying chuck schumer. He signs the order. My question is though, how come the white house is saying all along, no, the president cant just sign an order and make a phone call. But today the president did just that. He cant sign an order because the order that he signed, everybody is saying it is incomplete and it is not enough. He did what he could do at this time and we will see what happens later on. Rick, does that make sense to you . It does not. And i will tell you why. The executive order he signed today was a response to a political panic. No you cant say that. Reverend, im sorry, i didnt interrupt you. Go ahead. This is a large panic and they made a huge political bet. Steve bannon, steven miller, the president , secretary nealsen were out there saying that. How great this is politically for the president. People are going to love this because it is President Trump being tough on the border. The features of this plan were Donald Trumps design. This is something donald trump wanted. He got a program out there that deliberately separated children from their parents. Young children. Very young children. Wait tender age they have to go into tender age centers. This was a plan that donald trump executived. Planned out by steve bannon and miller. This has been going on for decades. In their own words. One at a time. It began with them faking those fake photographs in children in photographs that were placed in cages under the obama administration. This is a talking point. If it was wrong then if it was wrong then you should be crying about it then as you are crying about it now. You need to be careful. Let me hold on. Let the reverend reverend scott no such thing as political panic with donald trump. He doesnt panic. Oh yes he does. Reverend scott, you support what he did today. Do you believe separating kids from their parents is a humane thing to do . Listen. Separating children. Let me answer. Separating children from law breaking pafrrents is a standar operating procedure in the black community. We see that all the time in the black community. Law breakers who break the law, the kids are taken into custody. This outrage here is something new to me. Once again, in the black community we see this all the time. Now, the question is what should be done with the children when they are apprehended. Do i put them in jail with the parent. Walk down the street by themselves what do i do . That is what the real question is. Something has to be done. These parents are breaking the laws. They know they are breaking the laws and they are bringing the children with them in the commission of the crime. What do you do with the children. What past administrations does is release them and ask them to come to court. Come on, now. Listen, it is hard to get people eaking speeding limits to come back to court. Come on now. According to statistics 75 of them would. Put out by the department the ones that are put out by the Justice Department. We are trying to sneak into this country. You can talk all over it what you want. You asked about what statistics now you are ignoring that. They let you loose in this country. I am telling you you can say come on n

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