Under age five in custody and covered by the reunification order. More in a moment on that and what tells judge said. First a simple question about secretary alex who is responsible for caring for these children through the office of refugee resettlement. Keeping them honest, what in heavens name was he thinking when he said this. There is no reason any parent would not know where their child is located. At key strokes i sat on the portal with basic key strokes could find any child any or care for any parent. Said that ten days ago the same day a federal judge gave the administration on july 10 to return kids under five to their parents and set july 26 for the rest. No problem, just a few key strokes. Just a few seconds, he said, but yesterday, secretary was saying, they did not even have an exact count of how many children it had. Somewhere below 3,000 he said, an estimate about children. An estimate. So what happened to those magical key strokes, those special buttons that find people within seconds, it seems their super powers dont include actual counting. Still he did say that will hhs would meet all it will deadlines. We will lcomply with the artificial deadlines provided by the court. We will comply even if it prevents us from conducts a standard process. Turns out yesterday was so yesterday. Today the administration said it might need more time and secretary gave another Conference Call this time for lawmakers. Senator Richard Blumenthal a democratic from connecticut said i just got off the phone with hhs. Horrified after Conference Call. No separated children have been reunited. No system, to plan, to sure to reunification, no answers to key questions. Strategy seems to be blame everyone else. Another democratic senator said the call was and i am quoting here, vagueness. Sort of the way this is. Theres no reason why any parent would not know where theirle chi lchild is located. Keeping them honest, there was evidence it was flawed from outset. Essentially reclassified as entering the country unaccompanied which obviously they were not. Then after a few days in border Holding Facilities handed over to hhs and taken to all corners of the country. Parents meantime stayed in Border Patrol custody with records in separate databases. New york times citing officials said this was a big problem. Hhs said today its not, but, again, the department is still scrambling trying to reunify a singlefamily recruiting volunteers. Using dna testing. Then theres this. The court system sought clarification on whether they have to reunite migrant kids with parent who is are already deported and argued it would be too difficult and time consuming. Meaning what exactly . Is the doj asking why even bother in what does it say that the people who took these kids in the first place are now asking a judge if they really have to bother to give them back. More now on the breaking news, Court Hearing in the new dateline in what the administration said, cnn sunland s joins us now. I think its pretty unclear tonight. They say theyll believe theyll make at least one of those dlooi deadlines. The decline today to have phone calls between kids and separated parents. On the more desperate deadlines, say they will likely fall short and need more time. Tuesday is the deed line to reunite all kids under the age of five. Thats about 100 kids by july 26 will need to have reunited all kids separated from parents. The court saying they do not expect to meet those deadlines because officials today said they dont know the location of every parent. In court they really attempted to lay out before the judge why they believe in their opinion this process is so challenging to them notable that these are challenges of course of their own making saying things like dna testing takes a long time. So that was significant today here in court. Now in court, we did also learn new information about that group of kids about 100 kids who were under the age of five. Among that group, 19 parents, 19 parents of those children have already been deported. That really speaking, john, to they still dont know exactly where the parents are if they were to try to reunite these kids with their parents. The judge did ask the government to list by 5 00 p. M. Tomorrow on saturday of all these children under five and they will reconvene court on monday morning. What do we know about what was said during hhs Conference Call with lawmakers, lawmakers critical about it. Thats right. Very unhappy about that call. There was a call on the house side with house members and senate side with senators and i spoke to many members after that call and aides who were also on the call. Theyre dissatisfied. They say its just appointing the level of information really wasting no time to blast that hhs secretary over twitter. Do you highlight thad one tweet from senator blumenthal who said hes furious, horrified after the call. That was is sentiment i heard from many members. They expected there would be some new information from the secretary today and they did not give any new information beyond what they gave to press 24 hours ago. Significant that many of those aides said they thought it was a waste of time, total propaganda. Certainly lawmakers very disappointed and expect to push the secretary for more. For now, they have nos ones. Sunland, thanks so much. Jason, you were very critical of secretary atsar and his mixed message yesterday. Yesterdays mixed message became todays muddled message. Yesterday, he essentially admitted he couldnt count how many kids had been separated from parents that were in custody. The one thing he did say yesterday was that they would meet the deadlines in reunifying them with parents. Today the government says, no, were not going meet the deadlines. We need an extension. Whats going on here . Again, today were seeing same problems we saw yesterday with the mixed messaging coming out and not having facts. This is really what the problem is with us and where the Administration Needs to do much better is we cant have this information coming out in bits and pieces and being incompletely and contradicting previous pieces. We need to be on top of details. Get the kids reunited and go through the process and deported out of the country if theyre not accepted through the asylum process. Obviously were finding out now we did get more information today about the 49 children that have now spoken with their parents. We are seeing some of them being brought together in very short order here. I can understand if they say where weve matched up children with their parents. We need a little extra time. We want to make sure were getting the right kids with the right parents. Want to make sure there arent criminal backgrounds. If they means a couple extra days. That means to be communicatcomm clear and consistent game plan. The bigger problem here is there are still folks trying to come across the border every single day. We are talking about a group of people again separated from their parents by the u. S. Government. When you said they need to match them, wit t them, it was the government that split them up. Critical point and this was part of the thing we found out over the last 24 hours or so. This is part of the hangup with the judge and we have a problem getting this done, a lot of the kids have been separated from the parents. This happened even before zero tolerance policy went into affect, but the judges ruling said that all had to be together is what we found. Thats why dhs knows to the exact number of children. That doesnt explain why the government couldnt count them. That doesnt explain why the government cant connect it all by phone call and why they cant match them when this is the government that did it. Anna, you heard secretary atsar say this is an artificial deadline presented by the judge here. Is that a compelling argument. Look, i think its how they see it. I think theyre being truth. What we can see from the government is number one, theyre incompetent. Theyre despicable liars. Theyve been lying about this since day one. Number three they cant get this done. They feel no sense of urgency. There seems to be little genuine will to get this done. Because its immigrants. Because they can abuse immigrants. Because they can treat immigrants this way. Any 16yearold kid in a summer job would be expected to keep a count of inventory. This is an inventory of isnt a they cant give answers to the court. They cant give answers to the press. They cant give answers to lawmakers. Here in south florida, carlos curbelo, republican, republican congressman from district 26 tried to go visit one of the centers that is in his district. He had given hhs all of the ample time and advice and announcement. He wasnt allowed in. They canceled his visit last night with less than 24 hours because they have no answers. They are the keystone cops. Whether you are for or against immigration regardless of how you feel about this issue, you should be embarrassed. Every american should be embarrassed by the level of incompetence that is being revealed through this process. Where is the president on this . I know hes got a Supreme Court nomination to make. He was in montana giving a political rally. Couldnt he be behind the desk making phone calls trying to make a process. He likes to get things done. I havent seen him working to reunite children with their parent my understanding is the Administration Knows exactly how serious it is and moving behind the scenes. Where is the president on it . Where isnt he the public face on this . Why isnt he calling out hhs saying get your act together. Get this done. My ununderstanding is that t president is making sure they know how serious it is and they have to move on it quick. Something ana said and i agree with, were talking about people here. Theres a rush to go and talk about this and the numbers. These are human beings. And this is why i think the Security Side of this and making sure were getting the right kids with the right parents and were not handing kids over to drug traffickers or human traffickers or mules or anything like this is very important because it could be one child, it could be ten, it could be 50. We dont know how many could possibly be mismatched or sent to the wrong people. Again, some of these kids put through perilous situations in their journey north from central america. We dont mow who they might be sent back for. Indeed. Perilous journeys and then separated when they got over here. Look, i dont think the president cares. Okay. He has shown very little everyone think towards any of this. Its a bunch of brown immigrants from places like guatemala. Anna, you cant say that. Of course i can say that. He has been calling immigrants criminals and rapists. You have no idea of that. He has shown us time and time again how he feels about immigrants. He has dmemonized immigrants frm day one. From june 15, 2016, he came down the stairwell is and first thing he did was focus on attacking immigrants and he has not stopped since. He wants to enforce our border and enforce immigration laws. He has called the country that they come from shit holes. He has given so many indications during the time as candidate and president that he does not give a damn. Completely disagree. I think the president wants to secure the border like americans do. Need stronger immigration laws. And also the president wants to get comprehensive immigration plan done. Kudos to the president pushing that. I said very clearly the Administration Needs to do a better job with the problem in front of us right now and been very clear to that point. Kudos to no one for getting the kids reunited state. Dewane thats like joe, tweeted a different conversation every day. I appreciate your time. A new court filing from the Russia Special counsels team after the very first time connects the charges against Paul Manafort with the campaign he ran, the Trump Campaign. As far as the president is concerned, not only do the charges have nothing to do with the campaign, he practically suggests the former Campaign Chairman had nothing to do with his campaign. I think a lot of it is unfair. I look at some where they go back 12 years like manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. I feel a little badly about it. They went back to get things he did 12 years ago. Paul manafort worked for me for a very short period of time. Worked for ronald reagan, bob dole, he worked for me for what, 49 days or something. A very short period of time. Was a pretty big job and it was longer than that. In any case, things change. Sara murray has the breaking news for us. Mueller team says manafort Bank Fraud Trial does have a campaign connection. What can you tell us about that. Put out a new court filing where were getting the new details. Didnt expect manaforts role in the Trump Campaign was going to be featured in the trial he was face ugh. Has to do with financial crime, has to do with foreign lobby and allegations hes facing, basically said look we intend to present evidence a banker helped secure more than 6 million in loans while seeking a position in the Trump Campaign and went on to become an adviser to the Trump Campaign and get a role in the administration although they were not capable of doing it. Heres how that fits in. Prosecutors alleged Paul Manafort used false information to get morgues and introduced thad mortgage money as free income then theyre saying we need to explain how he was able to continue to get these loans and the reason at least in this case they say he was able to get these loans despite the dubious loan application was because the banker who was helping him get the money had personal ambitions of his own. Counsel also asked the judge to move the trial from virginia to. This could stretch on for a while if the judge decides to grant these requests, but in ferms terms of changing the area where the trial is going to happen, the first trial in virginia, manaforts team is arguing its so saturated around washington, d. C. In the beltway that theres no way he could get a fair trial, impartial jury and alexandria, virginia. Also pointed out the way the two areas voted in the last election and said alexandria overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton for president and because the nation is so partisan right now particularly in the area surrounding the beltway, peoples political views the way they voted could play into how they decide a case about Paul Manafort who worked on the Trump Campaign. Next, another sign that the Republican Party is true through Donald Trumps party even at the expense of some of the partys best loved former leaders. Well talk about what the president said about john mccain and george h. W. 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